B&W 800d's or MAGICO V3's?

Koegz,

Before dropping $20000+ on new speaks, maybe consider auditioning a pair of Ohm 5 series 3 speakers. You can get an extended in-home trial period to break them in and make sure they fit the bill. I'd say they can do pretty much what the Magicos can in terms of overall presenation with proper amplification andeven more from what I've heard in terms of sound stage, dynamics and low end extension and finesse I would say, but at a fraction of the cost. With the Ohm 5s, I don't miss either B&Ws or Magnepans that I've owned in the past, each of which had their unique limitations.

i want to be knocked out of my chair and for my wife to finally say "yeh that sounds better, so what". i do not mean an exagerated bottom end but to be real acurate enjoyable fantastic sound!

To be knocked out of your chair when your previous speaker is the B&W 800d simply ain't gonna happen in terms of sound quality.

{Magico mini or V3} i found the sound to be a little not there, held back. if this is detailed not for me.

All I can suggest is you try to audition some high end active speakers - perhaps this will get you that extra edge you are looking for - that extra level of detail, clarity, precise bass and blistering dynamics.

However, given where you are starting from - you simply ain't gonna be knocked out of your chair - no way no how.

A complete custom room design/rebuild by a pro like Rives is probably your only ticket to the next level...

...just two cents.

Shadorne has a good point. Perhaps you have stated it already, but what is it that is missing that will knock you out of your chair?

Spending more money on speaks is not necessarily the answer. You already have outstanding speaks, Any move is most likely lateral. But lateral is not a bad thing as long as you know what you're looking for sound wise and have a reasonable plan to achieve it.

Assuming different speaks might help, in lieu of improving room acoustics, you may need to try something other than conventional box designs to get the wow your looking for.

Omni's are one possibility, which is why I suggested the Ohms as a cost effective place to test the waters. Active speakers? Maybe. Planars like Maggies? Maybe, if the room is not a problem, otherwise forget it. Tube amplification is another possibility.

Avalon is a distinctive line of large expensive full range speaks reknowned for detail and resolution that come to mind that I've heard and that sound nothing like B&Ws or Magicos from what I recall. Avalon Opus or Indras or something similar might be worth a listen, but I think these can get to be quite expensive as well.

I guess everyone hears things in there own way as MINI 2 AND V3 are raved about all over the world i think they are the best speaker out there!!

OK,I simply want to give an opinion,having heard the V3,and having a close friend owning the MINI!!

I'm trying to be fair,but obviously just my own take,and please no venom!!

The v3 may be a superb speaker,and I like it,and have heard it well set up....BUT...it "does not alot",for me.Yes,it is a very well made,and good sounding design...Ehh!
There's lots of competition "there"!

Yet,the MINI is "special",and here's why(IMO,only)....

It does BIG,does SMALL does almost anything asked from it...It also fits into alot more room situations.

Like some other designs,but it IS SMALL,for what it does!!AND "that" is BIG!..and a BIG DEAL!At least to me.

The simple fact that there is SO much power,and detail coming from a point source "exraordinaire",with SO little actual "cabinet" is something to behold,from an audible point of view....Btw,the cabinet is gorgeous.

In terms of appearance,the v3 is "downright ugly",though very good sounding...but...though the v3 digs a bit deeper,the Mini sounds more "special" to me...Why?...

Because it IS!!Coherence?Probably,along with more magic...

To NOT hear "alot" of cabinet(I don't care how well made the V3 is,it's cabinet,and driver distances make it more obvious to "my" ear,as compared to the MINI)like the very well executed Mini,is a wonderful feature.

The MINI also looks gorgeous,and will definitely inspire the thought of it's cost,to the buyer....BUT...once again to be honest(IMO only)...

It is overpriced....Probably there is stuff competitive,but I still have not heard "that",in terms of the size/bulid quality/gorgeous looks/\...

I anxiously awauit the TSD Mini Monitor coming next fall!!

Just my two cents!

Best.