Speaker placement: Your favourite shortcut?

I'm with Rushton and Albert...good advice

Dave

High Rushton your agreement with Mr. Cardas is usually right for my preferred listening position. I have to similarly agree with Mr. Porter and Dave.
I must add that I have a dificult to Cardas place my speakers in my WAF system (Rush you never saw it) The room is about 30+ feet in length but only 10 Feet in width the end are an open entrance to a small office and the other a large window set up. The height is 8+ ft. Get this the entire wall which the speakers fire into the long wall is a monstrous mirror. Hey it came with the house. The equipment rack is a danish modern maple expandble multi compartment piece. It is maybe 24 inches in height, is 12 feet or more, and two feet deep. The speaker are placed at the ends over 2 feet into the room so it should be terrible. Echos, reflections booming bass and all because I invested nothing by way room treatments, of course no soundstage right??? You guessed it, nope no reflection lord knows why and it stages well. Beats me but if think I jest ask Slipknot or Trelja.

Rushton,
I used to use the methods you described[which I think are the most well known methods]until a chance encounter with a very nice prominent surgeon in Germany.He has ,to my ears,the best system I have ever heard in My life{and believe me,being married to a Japanese ,and having spent some time in Japan;there are many really good systems there}.Those are the steps that were recommended by him.

You would be surprised at how much easier and faster it would be with the help of SPM,and how different it would be from the Cardas ratio.It always give the most 3-D image,in my experience,and I have recommended the methods[very simple and quick too!!!]to many friends..

Give it a go,and let me know what you think.

CHEERS.

For a "short cut" as you asked, I use a set up disc...not sure who made it, but there are a few out there.

But, that is for short cuts, use the above methoeds to really get it right.

John