Bass rant

Fun thread. I have two JL Audio F110 subs on the way here now. Bass is fun. Heh Heh.

i'm guilty! Guilty of at one time transposing enormity for quality. No longer though. I';ve also sought out those squeakers which had the lowest numbers and suspect many have, whether they admit it or not. I feel audio maturity takes time.

Present circumstances dictate to me or for me, more bass prominence is a good thing, though not to the point where it obscures anything above it... been there & done that too! And liked it! Until I heard it differently. Differently and improved.

Perhaps it is a matter of hearing ability, knowledge, preffs and experiences... all together which ultimately places one onto what I hope now for myself is a more mature method of replaying music. Now a days, balance is the more important item, yet again, a degree or three more bass info works for me and that's a huge step upwards from my just 4 years ago position on the matter... as I don't articulate the areas below 50Hz or so too well, I do enjoy feeling them.... especially with films.

In fact way, way more with films than with musical pieces. Apart from the virtual sonic candy mixed into a great multi ch soundtrack, I do dig that swelling up bottom end when it comes, every time!

The problem is subwoofers are a total design compromise need to be small for waf and cost, thus need large excurtion and massive power this greatly reduces transent responce and bass details. Needs boundery reinforcment to generate bass, again bass qualitys effected since best spot for subwoofer to generate low freqincy might not be the best sounding spot or best integration. Andmany loudspeakers today are using such weak motor transducers no wonder bass is droning booming dull delayed etc. With bass go big, large drivers, low excursions, hi-eff. Thus massive. If you cheat physics you get a conventional subwoofer and thus subwoofer sound to bass.

With bass go big, large drivers, low excursions, hi-eff. Thus massive. If you cheat physics you get a conventional subwoofer and thus subwoofer sound to bass.

Exactly large 12"+ drivers in a massive box is the way to go or else it is just BEP Boom Boom Pow...

The laws of physics are strictly enforced. I tried every short cut that was offered before I ultimately wound up with 15 woofers in 5 cubic foot ported enclosures. This approach has provided me with a very realistic bass that reaches all the way down to 50 hz. before it rolls off rather steeply.

The reason I am willing to accept a lower limit of 50 hz. has to do with trading quantity for quality.