Like Cain Ben's set up hollow sounding


We have some DIY Cain Ben's with F120A drivers that we just can't seem to tame the hollow sound like listening in a cave? It is a simple system Passion Pak i10 integrated Sony 555es driving the speakers with Element cables. 1st problem noted by others might be the deal breaker the room 25x16 cathedral ceiling 24' up opening to another 25 off the 25 into a lower ceiling room. The speakers are on the 16'x10' heigh wall with the ceiling going up. The speakers they are replacing did quite well Reynaud Twins which were limited in bass but did well other wise. We do not play our music loud but loud or soft the hollow cave effect seems to stay with us. We moved them well into the room helped a little 48" out from the back wall into the room but still there is the sense you are looking into the performance, it kind of brought it out more into the room but still hollow sounding. We stuffed everything we have pillows wool ,,,,,,,,, into them and this helped some but lost some of the live sound? not muffled but not as open? Read one post that said cables Paul Speltz made a difference another post Sistrum stands another thought amp made the difference. Seems this can be a problem with this type of speaker? They look great and at times the sound is right and good bass. Any thoughts I would greatly appreciate them. Thank you
johnbonn
Your welcome. Its what I do. I have a hard time not thinking about loudspeakers and design. Spend my days and nights working on loudspeakers. Wake in the middle of the night to try things out. Crazy but my wife allows such. Dont know why but transducers and loudspeakers have facinated me since I was a small child.
Well thank you again John your knowledge turned a challenging situation into a great enjoying the music situation. The frustating thing was they sounded so good at the sellers house I mean really good then set them up in my place and what a difference. I was concerned because the rooms were so different and heard all kinds of 80% of the sound is the room that I was in trouble. Ron the seller was great the whole way offering all kinds of suggestions and amps to eliminate as much as I could before saying the room was not going to work. So I read a lot of posts which steered me all over but not there. Then I put up the post kind of thought I didn't give enough info but as I said you nailed it. The speakers are like Bens but much smaller so the f120a is working great unlike the real Cain Abby's I had and enjoyed but my room being so large when the volume was turned up the speakers started shouting, these have no shouting no nasal on male vocals and the piano and cellos wow, that is after your advise. One more question if you don't mind stufffing or sound deadening any recommendations heard long hair wool is the hot tip? I am using like pillow fill it seems to be doing the job I can't ask for much more the only two things that come to mind is a larger sound stage and seperation of individual instruments say in the string section. That is it everthing else is more then I have ever had. Well again thank you your knowledge advise and time to pass some on to me it is very much appreciated. Keep doing what you do!
Use real wool or acousta stuff you can get this from madisound Josh is the better guy to buy from ask for him if you can. Pillow fill does not absorb as well or as even. Also try deflex behind driver you might beable to cut 1 in 1/2 to save some funds, also keep fill loose. Dont pack it in or sound quality will be - effected. Fostex also makes hyperbolic reflectors you can bolt into horn throat these can reduce some of the colorations and drone from bass. But are costly.
Thank you John I will get in touch with Josh and change out the pillow stuffing can't thank you enough for your suggestions listening to Sarah Brightman and she is in the room! Thank you John