Glai - I respect your comments about ceramic drivers -- I was very concerned about that with the Eidelons. With the wrong electronics, I think, quite as you say, pianos can sound brittle and violins too metallic. That's why I would characterize the Avalons, in general, as being very reflective of the equipment used to drive them. (This goes for the Ascendants as well.) With the CJ gear, I'm not having that issue. As one of my more experienced audiophile buddies opined, "Some designers know how to design with ceramic drivers, and some don't." Maybe he's right.
The Eidelons are among the less-efficient Avalons, and I'm not having any problem driving them to the point of "bleeding ears" in my room, which is about 15x20, with a Premier 11, which I think is 70 watts.
Flyfish2002 - yes, Bill is great to work with, and he still has some gear of mine he's working on, so I almost hate to mention his name here -- don't want him to get TOO busy! He listens very carefully for what the client is trying to achieve, and does a very nice job of both describing what he can do, and delivering.
Blindjim - I think even the Harbeth M-40's can likely be driven by 100 watts of tube power. I think you will find that Harbeth users in general would say that the rated efficiency for the Harbeths does not seem to correctly describe their (relative) drive-ability. The M-30's on paper are relatively inefficient, but even 50 - 70 watts of tube power gooses them pretty well.
Bwcanuck - You're right about classical recordings, and it goes for old or new. A lot of Columbia records (meaning Lps or CDs) sound too bright to me on a system that otherwise doesn't have that problem -- especially the old Szell and Walter recordings. I think there might be some phono equalization issues there, at least with the Lps. But I'll tell you a great secret -- some of the most enjoyable recordings I have listened to in the last year have been old mono Deccas and EMIs. Not all, by any means, but a lot of the mono Ansermets are very good, and a lot of the chamber music is wonderful. Evenutally, I intend to get a separate turntable and a mono cartridge, and that is part of the rationale for setting up a separate system with my M30's.
Many thanks to all for the comments.
The Eidelons are among the less-efficient Avalons, and I'm not having any problem driving them to the point of "bleeding ears" in my room, which is about 15x20, with a Premier 11, which I think is 70 watts.
Flyfish2002 - yes, Bill is great to work with, and he still has some gear of mine he's working on, so I almost hate to mention his name here -- don't want him to get TOO busy! He listens very carefully for what the client is trying to achieve, and does a very nice job of both describing what he can do, and delivering.
Blindjim - I think even the Harbeth M-40's can likely be driven by 100 watts of tube power. I think you will find that Harbeth users in general would say that the rated efficiency for the Harbeths does not seem to correctly describe their (relative) drive-ability. The M-30's on paper are relatively inefficient, but even 50 - 70 watts of tube power gooses them pretty well.
Bwcanuck - You're right about classical recordings, and it goes for old or new. A lot of Columbia records (meaning Lps or CDs) sound too bright to me on a system that otherwise doesn't have that problem -- especially the old Szell and Walter recordings. I think there might be some phono equalization issues there, at least with the Lps. But I'll tell you a great secret -- some of the most enjoyable recordings I have listened to in the last year have been old mono Deccas and EMIs. Not all, by any means, but a lot of the mono Ansermets are very good, and a lot of the chamber music is wonderful. Evenutally, I intend to get a separate turntable and a mono cartridge, and that is part of the rationale for setting up a separate system with my M30's.
Many thanks to all for the comments.