Jeff Rowland


Is there anyone that is familiar with Jeff Rowland amps that can tell me the difference between the 525 with a Capri 2 preamp compared to the Continuum S2 Integrated amp?
ricred1
+1 Bombaywalla (with a slight qualification as described below).

Richard, I see that you are using some rather expensive interconnects and speaker cables. In part for that reason I would reiterate my earlier comment to the effect that you wouldn't have to double up on interconnect cables to implement a vertical biamp configuration. You would just use a short XLR y-cable at the inputs of the amp, such as one of those I linked to earlier, in conjunction with the same interconnect you would use for bridged mode.

You may have seen people claim at times that use of y-cables or splitters in their system resulted in some amount of sonic degradation. My strong suspicion is that in most of those cases the reason for that was not the y-cables or splitters themselves, but rather the inability of the component supplying the signal to drive the two sets of load impedances that were involved, and in many cases two sets of cables as well, in an optimal manner. That won't be an issue in your situation.

For example, it is sometimes reported that poor results are obtained when a y-adapter or splitter is used to route the outputs of a preamp to both a power amp and a powered sub. In those situations it tends not to be realized that the capacitance of the cable to the sub, which is often substantial due to the length that may be involved, will affect the signals received by the main power amp just as if it were added to the capacitance of the cable to the main power amp. It also tends not to be realized that the line-level input impedance of many and probably most powered subs is quite low, which will also affect the signals seen by the main power amp, especially if the preamp's output impedance is high. Yet the y-adapter itself will often be blamed for the less than optimal results.

None of those kinds of effects will be applicable in your situation, given also that the RCA outputs of the Bricasti DAC, which I assume you are using to drive your subs, are driven by output stages that are fully independent of those driving the DAC's XLR outputs (that often not being the case with lesser designs).

Finally, the very low output impedance of the Bricasti DAC, the fact that its connections to the amps are balanced, and the relatively short lengths that are involved, all work in the direction of reducing sensitivity to interconnect cable effects and differences. Including the effects of balanced y-cables that may be in the path.

Regards,
-- Al
Macro, here are list prices....

Capri Series II Stereo Preamplifier $3,950
Model 525 Stereo Power Amplifier $4,500
Continuum S2 integrated: $9500

Richard has indicated that he will be driving M525s directly from his Bricasti M1 DAC, sens line stage. G.
I also agree with the vertical biamp recommendation. I do this in my own system and get great results. All you need are 2 stereo amps (exactly the same), and a pair of speakers with 2 sets of binding posts. You have both so its just a matter of making the connections and trying it out. I'm kind of surprised Rowland didn't mention this option when you called them.
Zd542,

Rowland actually mentioned vertical biamp as an option. I had a long talk with them and this is what I have decided. I'm going to get a Continuum S2 Integrated(home audition) and see if there is a big enough difference between it and a single 525(525 already for sale). My concern is a degradation of the sound through the line stage compared to the Bricasti M1. "IF" what I read is true the Continuum maybe the least complicated and most cost effective way forward. If I don't think the Continuum is a big enough difference, I will sell my 525 and look for a used/demo 625 mk1. I just want to reiterate I really like Jeff Rowland's sound.
I'm not trying to 2nd guess your decision, or anything like that. We're just recommending that if you have all the equipment already in your possession, you've got nothing to loose trying it both ways, vertical and bridged. Honestly, I can't say if the bridging will be an improvement. I've never bridged Rowland gear, so I'm looking forward to hearing your comments on how it sounds. The vertical will sound better than a single. The question is how much better, and is it worth it. That has to be your call. In my system, I have 2 Ayre V-5's running vertical, and I'm very happy with the results.