Advice for speakers under $4K for mixed use


Amp Marantz MM8003 (140W x 8ch (8 ohms)

Looking for front speakers for mixed stereo listening and surround use. Space is at a premium but small footprint floorstanding would work.
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I also own a pair of 2.4s and while they do need a solid amplifier (no pun intended lol) to sound their best you can get away with much less. I have tried 3 amps on the CS2.4 at this point. Mcintosh 252 (250 watts/ch class AB), Wyred 4 Sound ST500 (250 watts/ch class-d), and Rotel RB-1072 (100 watts/ch class-d and part of my second rig in the bedroom).

I liked the Wyred for sound the best over the Mcintosh 252. It gave up nothing to the Mcintosh 252 and added bass control (slam/punch). But I pulled out the Rotel just for kicks and it too does a pretty good job. It is not as refined in the top end or mids as the ST-500 but it does pretty good at only 100 watts and much better than you would thing for the $500 I spent on it...

As the people above have commented room size and seating distance are very important as to how much power you will need. Things like hardwood floor vs carpet make a big difference too. But most of all it comes down to how loud you listen. Remember that it takes twice the power for a 3db increase in sound. So if 20 watts gets you to your listening level a 100 watt amp will give you about 6db of overhead. There are a lot of factors but the doubling of power for 3db gain is a good place to start from.

I listen right around 75-80db and on the Mcintosh 252 (it has a rough gauge) I was using 12 watts with 20 watt peaks. Of course this will very with preamp gain, room, etc.

Now there is a theory that more power adds speed and control and there is some truth to this idea IMO. But there is a point where watts to not mean much and quality quickly takes over. Other things to consider are damping factors of the amp for bass control. Speaker impedance balance also matters. Anyway sorry to run on and on. I am sure you already know most of this stuff.

PS. I personally would alway buy the speakers I like first and work the amps and front end around them. Speakers will most likely be the weak link.
Silverline audio are fine speakers in that range used. Currently one Sonata mkiii is listed. I sold my LaFolia's for 3,500 (too cheap as it turned out).

If you want to go a step up you can get Revel Studio's close to that range (I paid 4K for mine used, but that was a killer deal).

From what I personally listened to I really liked the Joseph Audio line as well.
Funny, Edorr. I was going to suggest a pair of Sonatina IIIs, which list for $5K, but could probably be purchased from Silverline direct for less. A check of the Silverline web site revealed that both the Sonata and Sonatina have been dropped. Along with the Allegro being dropped, this means Alan Yun offers nothing between his $1200/pr Prelude and the Bolero, @ $12K/pr. It looks weird to me. With almost no distribution and no way for most people to audition Silverline products, Alan Yun clearly is a better speaker designer than businessman! It's a shame, too. The Silverlines I've heard were truly remarkable speakers.
I suggest the Revel F52. A used pair would be well within your price range. My pair replaced a pair of 2.4's. In my room, with my equipment, the Revel was just as transparent as the Thiel but did not highlight problems in recordings nearly as much. The Thiel had a slightly better soundstage, but the tonal balance of the Revel, along with better bass slam, won the day.