Cable Upgrades or Better Components???

Czarivey your logic doesn'tk equate to anything we are talking about.

So what about my post you referred to was BS?Was it the part where I had complete lineups of tube and solid state gear, speakers from entry grade to $30,000, cable manufacturers sending me complete cable lineups to break in and test for months at a time? What was BS?

If a guy such as myself had $450k in equipment and considers comparison work to be his full time job so that he can offer advice as a service to audiophiles that do no have the resources or time to do that, how hard would it be to take an entry level tube and solid state BAT system with entry grade neutral cables and try one thing at a time to see what gave the biggest performance improvements for the money? Don't you think it would be basic logic to try the best cables costing $5000 and then try a $10,000 preamp and easily be able to tell which sounded better? Then try power cords for an even bigger improvement and we are still under the $10k preamp but the entry grade system still blows away the upgrade of the preamp?

So what was BS about the points I try to make?

The only BS is when guys who can't tell the difference between a $200 cable and a $600 cable try to call the guy who has successfully upgraded hundreds of entry and ultimate systems without any complaints that he's full of BS. Everything I ever sold had a money back policy, there is no BS allowed under those terms, either it's what I say it is or it comes back to me, no BS involved.

Everything I say can be easily proved, and part of the proof is that huge numbers of guys who don't do things in the right order can't hear differences in upgrades. When the correct steps are followed the differences can be heard by someone who is half deaf, literally.

Some of you guys are very suspicious unforgiving and quick to judge. Personaly, I am not concerned about different biases including selling particulat things. Many here are trying to 'sell' their own narcissism in various forms. Question is who is 'buying' ?
The man's thread is completely legitimate.
Cables are components. Yes, it is stupid to change components before trying your best to extract most of them. If the components are good enough, I mean. I have $1800 speaker cables on $1500 speakers, none were bought new.
And I have $800 interconnect on $1000 phono stage.
No, I doubt that I would put $10k interconnect on $3k phono.
Some equipment responds less to cables and cords, some more. But everything does respond.

"Some of you guys are very suspicious unforgiving and quick to judge."

There's a reason for that.

"Cable questions of the profound "what is the meaning of cable" are always entertaining by right of how many clueless people are going to give you their profoundly ignorant and useless advice. Unfortunately far too many dealers and "experts" will give you advice that is almost as useless."

That's the first thing he says.

Clueless, Profoundly ignorant, "Experts", useless advice. You wouldn't call that unforgiving and quick to judge?

Aintitgr8,
I'm in full agreement with your statement concerning y-adaptors.
IMO: Cable comparisons using them would/should be highly suspect.

IMO Cables should be the last tweak to your system once it is complete. I say complete because 1 high end cable may sound much better than another (possibly cheaper) should you change components later. It's all about total system synergy to get the best out of everything.

That said I recently upgraded my original Nordost Frey SC's to the Ansuz Ceramics. Flipping the cables in pairs I didn't hear anything earth shattering. But when I put one of each in I heard how dry and lean the Nordost sounded.

In conclusion I would recommend a cable that sounds great without breaking the bank until you've decided to call it quits and enjoy the system you have.