DIY Speaker cable experiments…
I have spent the last many months and now over 1000 hours testing speaker cable designs. Like the interconnects, the experiments started with some basic groundwork, and evolved completely based on sonic characteristics, not on engineering, science or any other fundamental knowledge. Therefore my ideas have received plenty of skeptics, but despite what “they” tell me, my cables experiments seem to end with some illogical conclusions. What I am saying it I do not twist these either. I have been told “they will not have the right impedance, they will lack bass, they will not de dynamic, they will sound like a megaphone, they will…”
I will take a few moments now to describe where I started, and the process I used to find the best wire configuration. I have received a great deal of “advise” regarding me sharing my ideas with everyone on the planet with no payback. I do understand these people, for I have given everyone the formula to an interconnect that is cheap and competes against the best. I continue to feel it is better to educate and help my friends learn and develop the best system they can. The rewards are not monetary but they are more valuable than any money.
Saying all that; I am not going to share the exact formula to my speaker cables in this thread. If will however guide you towards the solution so you do not waste too much time and money. Leave the wasting to me!!! I encourage you to try and experiment within these guidelines. The result will be some degree of great, but far more valuable is the education you will receive. I have learned enough that I can for the most part tell you exactly what wires to change based on what you hear.
Now for those who want to build their own speaker cables, but simply do not have the time to experiment, please write me, or phone me, and I will share exactly what I am doing. This way I am kind of protecting myself and my patent, but I am more importantly sharing this hobby with my friends.
I started out with the basic concept of having a conductor equal in area to a 10 to 12 gauge wire. I first tried the two conductors balanced (identical wire configuration) and then varying proportions of negative to positive gauge differences. This was done trying one 14 gauge, one 16 gauge, one 18 gauge… combined in amounts roughly equal to a 10-12 gauge wire. I discovered for my taste, 12 gauge in any combination was too much and the bass was way to fat and bloated. The cable was also very slow (probably because of the design as much as gauge?) and certainly not involving nor nearly refined enough.
Regarding the design; I tried only a few twisted wire vs. straight parallel wire experiments, and therefore my conclusions are not nearly as sound as the interconnect solutions were. After only a few attempts, I ended up following the same basic design concept as the interconnect.
{I experimented with separating the positive and negative conductors from ½” apart to over three inches apart. I found 1 ¼” to ¾” to be the best range. Anything further apart and the imaging began to suffer and anything closer and the tonality and clarity suffered.}
I continued to work on the speed and bass definition by reducing total gauge. At the same time I alternated between balanced and unbalanced gauge between the positive and negative. In my experiments, any time I used a wire heavier than 20 gauge the sound slowed and the bass bloated and became just noise.
I ended up with something more like 14 gauge total for the negative and a little more than half that much area for the positive. The wires range from 28 gauge to 20 gauge. These totals are using gold plated silver wire. I think the total gauge will be similar with different wire material, but I would speculate the actual amount of each will differ. Silver might need less thin wire (to prevent it from getting too bright) where copper might need more fine wire and less heavy gauge.
So how do you start? After many times building and dismantling and building again, I discovered a way to test countless wire configurations without needing to keep adding and subtracting wire through re-building. It will require a great deal more wire and cotton sleeving, but it will save a lot of frustration. I sleeved each wire in its own cotton sleeve and using a piece of tape I labeled each strand. Try starting with this:
Negative: (2) 20 gauge
(3) 22 gauge
(5) 24 gauge
(8) 26 gauge
(4) 28 gauge
Positive: (2) 22 gauge
(5) 24 gauge
(8) 26 gauge
(8) 28 gauge
The amounts above a quite a bit more than you need, but it will allow you many options to work with. I bundled all the negative strands (again using my friends winding machine) with thread to hold them together at one. I did the same with the positive and then separated them with cotton piping as in the interconnect design. I use Orchard Bay banana plugs (available from Steward at Sanctuary or Sound) to terminate the wires. These allow you to crimp the bundles into the plug by simple screwing and unscrewing the plug end. It makes it easy to add or subtract the wires.
I put all the wires into the plug at one end of the conductor, this was the speaker end. I then tried different wires combinations using the marker wires at the amp end. I was able to quickly change which wires I used without ever removing the plug from the amp. WARNING, mute you amp before you mess around with the wire.
At first it will be very obvious what direction to go. Use thinner wire for speed and tightening the bass as well as extending the top end. Use thicker wire for deeper bass or to make the image more solid. After a few hours you should be able to start focusing in on finer issues including how to change the imaging, soundstage depth, transparency, tempo and micro detail. Keep trying to develop the cable in one direction until you decide you went too far. Then back off to what sounds best. Work on just one conductor at a time. First the positive, then work the negative. Keep alternating until you have what you think is the best it can be.
***NOTE: You might find it best to start with about half of each gauge in the banana plug. You can use a piece of masking tape to tape the added strands to the plug as you try to quickly determine a range to work within. Once you have a rough good sounding cable, un-tape the wires and screw them into the banana. Then you can start again with adding or subtracting. Tape makes it easier to add and subtract, but if you are closing in on a final sound, you really should screw them into the plug.***
This is the time to call in your friends to lend their ears. While you have been developing these cables you will start to get overly focused on certain areas. It is your friends who will point our issues you could no longer identify. Once they are pointed out to you, it is easy to hear, and that is when you go back to trying wire combinations. It’s so cool how much you will learn about how wire effects the sound. After a while you will be able to tune your system to your taste. If you keep the cable with extra wire, you will be able to tune your speaker cables as your system evolves. A new amp might need a small adjustment to achieve the best performance. What you will have is an infinite supply of speaker cables. As you hear other systems and find things you wish you had, you will know how to change the speaker cable to pull out that characteristic.
I recommend you use a screw type mounting for your spade or banana plugs. This will allow you to easily adjust the cable configuration in the future. Do not solder the wires to a connector; this will only degrade the sound. Crimp type connectors are more a one use connector and will make it more difficult to modify the cable in the future. Some people prefer just the bare wires into the five way binding post on the speakers and amp. I am reluctant to do this because you may have stray wires that could short out and possibly damage the amp. I do however agree that no connector is best in that it reduces one more are of signal lose. For me, I prefer a connector.
Now do not be afraid to try different wire materials. Perhaps you will start with copper and then add a few strands of silver. You will here the silver, and the sparkle it brings forward. Try a strand of two of one of the many gold alloys being sold now on Audiogon, or if you have so much money that you can not decide whether to burn it for a recreational back yard fire, or maybe buy another Ferrari for the collection try solid gold or gold plated silver, or silver plated copper, or rhodium plated copper, palladium, platinum, or…
I believe the process I described above was the most educational experiment I have done. The understanding of how the sonics of our systems are altered by the wire combination used will help a DIY’er in most any audio project in the future. I highly encourage people to try this project; it is worth the time required.
I hope people feel the need to share what they learn with other so we all can learn. I am always reluctant to join in on these conversations, but when it seems I can help with some thoughts I will be hear to write those comments. Also do not be reluctant to write me directly if you have questions that you feel might not fit this post.
My entire goal with this great hobby, and with this amazing web site is to share what I have learned, and help all of us find the best results we can.
Enjoy and share the love!
jd
I have spent the last many months and now over 1000 hours testing speaker cable designs. Like the interconnects, the experiments started with some basic groundwork, and evolved completely based on sonic characteristics, not on engineering, science or any other fundamental knowledge. Therefore my ideas have received plenty of skeptics, but despite what “they” tell me, my cables experiments seem to end with some illogical conclusions. What I am saying it I do not twist these either. I have been told “they will not have the right impedance, they will lack bass, they will not de dynamic, they will sound like a megaphone, they will…”
I will take a few moments now to describe where I started, and the process I used to find the best wire configuration. I have received a great deal of “advise” regarding me sharing my ideas with everyone on the planet with no payback. I do understand these people, for I have given everyone the formula to an interconnect that is cheap and competes against the best. I continue to feel it is better to educate and help my friends learn and develop the best system they can. The rewards are not monetary but they are more valuable than any money.
Saying all that; I am not going to share the exact formula to my speaker cables in this thread. If will however guide you towards the solution so you do not waste too much time and money. Leave the wasting to me!!! I encourage you to try and experiment within these guidelines. The result will be some degree of great, but far more valuable is the education you will receive. I have learned enough that I can for the most part tell you exactly what wires to change based on what you hear.
Now for those who want to build their own speaker cables, but simply do not have the time to experiment, please write me, or phone me, and I will share exactly what I am doing. This way I am kind of protecting myself and my patent, but I am more importantly sharing this hobby with my friends.
I started out with the basic concept of having a conductor equal in area to a 10 to 12 gauge wire. I first tried the two conductors balanced (identical wire configuration) and then varying proportions of negative to positive gauge differences. This was done trying one 14 gauge, one 16 gauge, one 18 gauge… combined in amounts roughly equal to a 10-12 gauge wire. I discovered for my taste, 12 gauge in any combination was too much and the bass was way to fat and bloated. The cable was also very slow (probably because of the design as much as gauge?) and certainly not involving nor nearly refined enough.
Regarding the design; I tried only a few twisted wire vs. straight parallel wire experiments, and therefore my conclusions are not nearly as sound as the interconnect solutions were. After only a few attempts, I ended up following the same basic design concept as the interconnect.
{I experimented with separating the positive and negative conductors from ½” apart to over three inches apart. I found 1 ¼” to ¾” to be the best range. Anything further apart and the imaging began to suffer and anything closer and the tonality and clarity suffered.}
I continued to work on the speed and bass definition by reducing total gauge. At the same time I alternated between balanced and unbalanced gauge between the positive and negative. In my experiments, any time I used a wire heavier than 20 gauge the sound slowed and the bass bloated and became just noise.
I ended up with something more like 14 gauge total for the negative and a little more than half that much area for the positive. The wires range from 28 gauge to 20 gauge. These totals are using gold plated silver wire. I think the total gauge will be similar with different wire material, but I would speculate the actual amount of each will differ. Silver might need less thin wire (to prevent it from getting too bright) where copper might need more fine wire and less heavy gauge.
So how do you start? After many times building and dismantling and building again, I discovered a way to test countless wire configurations without needing to keep adding and subtracting wire through re-building. It will require a great deal more wire and cotton sleeving, but it will save a lot of frustration. I sleeved each wire in its own cotton sleeve and using a piece of tape I labeled each strand. Try starting with this:
Negative: (2) 20 gauge
(3) 22 gauge
(5) 24 gauge
(8) 26 gauge
(4) 28 gauge
Positive: (2) 22 gauge
(5) 24 gauge
(8) 26 gauge
(8) 28 gauge
The amounts above a quite a bit more than you need, but it will allow you many options to work with. I bundled all the negative strands (again using my friends winding machine) with thread to hold them together at one. I did the same with the positive and then separated them with cotton piping as in the interconnect design. I use Orchard Bay banana plugs (available from Steward at Sanctuary or Sound) to terminate the wires. These allow you to crimp the bundles into the plug by simple screwing and unscrewing the plug end. It makes it easy to add or subtract the wires.
I put all the wires into the plug at one end of the conductor, this was the speaker end. I then tried different wires combinations using the marker wires at the amp end. I was able to quickly change which wires I used without ever removing the plug from the amp. WARNING, mute you amp before you mess around with the wire.
At first it will be very obvious what direction to go. Use thinner wire for speed and tightening the bass as well as extending the top end. Use thicker wire for deeper bass or to make the image more solid. After a few hours you should be able to start focusing in on finer issues including how to change the imaging, soundstage depth, transparency, tempo and micro detail. Keep trying to develop the cable in one direction until you decide you went too far. Then back off to what sounds best. Work on just one conductor at a time. First the positive, then work the negative. Keep alternating until you have what you think is the best it can be.
***NOTE: You might find it best to start with about half of each gauge in the banana plug. You can use a piece of masking tape to tape the added strands to the plug as you try to quickly determine a range to work within. Once you have a rough good sounding cable, un-tape the wires and screw them into the banana. Then you can start again with adding or subtracting. Tape makes it easier to add and subtract, but if you are closing in on a final sound, you really should screw them into the plug.***
This is the time to call in your friends to lend their ears. While you have been developing these cables you will start to get overly focused on certain areas. It is your friends who will point our issues you could no longer identify. Once they are pointed out to you, it is easy to hear, and that is when you go back to trying wire combinations. It’s so cool how much you will learn about how wire effects the sound. After a while you will be able to tune your system to your taste. If you keep the cable with extra wire, you will be able to tune your speaker cables as your system evolves. A new amp might need a small adjustment to achieve the best performance. What you will have is an infinite supply of speaker cables. As you hear other systems and find things you wish you had, you will know how to change the speaker cable to pull out that characteristic.
I recommend you use a screw type mounting for your spade or banana plugs. This will allow you to easily adjust the cable configuration in the future. Do not solder the wires to a connector; this will only degrade the sound. Crimp type connectors are more a one use connector and will make it more difficult to modify the cable in the future. Some people prefer just the bare wires into the five way binding post on the speakers and amp. I am reluctant to do this because you may have stray wires that could short out and possibly damage the amp. I do however agree that no connector is best in that it reduces one more are of signal lose. For me, I prefer a connector.
Now do not be afraid to try different wire materials. Perhaps you will start with copper and then add a few strands of silver. You will here the silver, and the sparkle it brings forward. Try a strand of two of one of the many gold alloys being sold now on Audiogon, or if you have so much money that you can not decide whether to burn it for a recreational back yard fire, or maybe buy another Ferrari for the collection try solid gold or gold plated silver, or silver plated copper, or rhodium plated copper, palladium, platinum, or…
I believe the process I described above was the most educational experiment I have done. The understanding of how the sonics of our systems are altered by the wire combination used will help a DIY’er in most any audio project in the future. I highly encourage people to try this project; it is worth the time required.
I hope people feel the need to share what they learn with other so we all can learn. I am always reluctant to join in on these conversations, but when it seems I can help with some thoughts I will be hear to write those comments. Also do not be reluctant to write me directly if you have questions that you feel might not fit this post.
My entire goal with this great hobby, and with this amazing web site is to share what I have learned, and help all of us find the best results we can.
Enjoy and share the love!
jd