A quick update having now had the speakers in situ for around 35 hours of listening.
1) They are sooo effortless, you can easily turn the volume up with no distortion...so even though the music does not FEEL loud, it actually is. very dangerous to your hearing!!!!!!!!!
2) believe it or not, i find i still use the Velodyne DD18 sub on music! The key is i need to turn the low-pass crossover to 35 hz with a steep cutoff (48db). And i do NOT use the internal crossover!...but run the Velodyne in parallel.
What happens with the Velodyne is that it provides a very controlled tight rumble on deep bass tracks (a lot more than one would think if you listen to electronic, even orchesteral) that is very satisfying and fills the void (for bass freaks).
in fact, i find having put that back into my system, i do not feel the need to turn the volume up as much anymore. save my hearing!
3) muting and unmuting the Velodyne on the same tracks...i can confirm i get all of the detail on the bass drum kick from the Slamms.
4) Note, on the volume scale, i keep the Velodyne on 8...extremely low. Even going up one notch to 9 (out of 40+?) starts to overpower the Wilsons and i lose a touch of the bass drum kick detail in the rumble.
5) hence, i can see why Wilson developed their own subs...not just for video but even for certain audio.
hope that is helpful to those looking at full range speakers and subs.
1) They are sooo effortless, you can easily turn the volume up with no distortion...so even though the music does not FEEL loud, it actually is. very dangerous to your hearing!!!!!!!!!
2) believe it or not, i find i still use the Velodyne DD18 sub on music! The key is i need to turn the low-pass crossover to 35 hz with a steep cutoff (48db). And i do NOT use the internal crossover!...but run the Velodyne in parallel.
What happens with the Velodyne is that it provides a very controlled tight rumble on deep bass tracks (a lot more than one would think if you listen to electronic, even orchesteral) that is very satisfying and fills the void (for bass freaks).
in fact, i find having put that back into my system, i do not feel the need to turn the volume up as much anymore. save my hearing!
3) muting and unmuting the Velodyne on the same tracks...i can confirm i get all of the detail on the bass drum kick from the Slamms.
4) Note, on the volume scale, i keep the Velodyne on 8...extremely low. Even going up one notch to 9 (out of 40+?) starts to overpower the Wilsons and i lose a touch of the bass drum kick detail in the rumble.
5) hence, i can see why Wilson developed their own subs...not just for video but even for certain audio.
hope that is helpful to those looking at full range speakers and subs.