Hi melbguy1,
Thanks. As the technology of the S7 is incorporated in the new S5 MK2
they should sound wonderful!
Thanks. As the technology of the S7 is incorporated in the new S5 MK2
they should sound wonderful!
Speakers that are very accurate sounding but don't produce an emotional connection.
I have listened to a few speakers over the years that impressed me with their accuracy and presentation of the music, but just did not create an emotional response or connection. I have often wondered what that quality is in some speakers that produce an emotional connection with the listener. This quality has been identified by audiophiles, as "magical", "engaging" "just right" "euphonic" "natural" "true to life". " "satisfying" "musical".... I am sure there are at least 50 other adjectives that could describe this "quality" of sound .
Considering the various aspects of achieving good and accurate sound by component synergy, is there a way to explain this so-called magical element that often eludes so many of us??. I don't think such a feeling is temporal, conditioned by personal moods, or the phases of the moon or sun.
Like to hear from members who have given some thought to the same issue. Thanks, Jim
BTW, I know the thread is a bit out there, but I don't think the topic is pointlessly pursuing the genie in the bottle.
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What you're missing is mid-bass body and dynamics. Most speakers are fairly good at resolving details in the mids and highs. Very few speakers move enough air for accurate body. You need 2 12" drivers or a 15" driver for the mid-bass (200hz) if you want it to have the weight of real instruments in the room. The immediacy of real instruments comes from high efficiency. I've never heard drums sound accurate out of a speaker with less than a 100db/1w/1m efficiency rating. There's a relatively small list of speakers that fulfill this criteria. http://wajonaudio.webs.com/The%20Ultimate%20Speakers%20are%20Within%20Reach.html |
@fliz, the new Magico S5 Mk2 speakers use 2 x 10" bass drivers which handle the low, mid & upper bass crossing over to the midrange at about 200Hz. The new 10" bass drivers have massive magnets which help saturate the structure around the coil which prevents eddy currents forming, which in concert with the lighter and stiffer hybrid carbon Nano-tube/Nano-graphene cone material should reduce distortion & improve dynamics. The excursion rate of the voice coil for the new 10" bass drivers is measured at 15 mm linear movement, twice as much as its predecessor, thus enabling plenty of air to be moved. The S5 Mk2 is also 1db more efficient than the old S5 (89db @4ohms), so it should have impressive bass. |
Good orig. post, sunnyjim - not at all "out there," but as I see it indeed very relevant. +1 mac48025 and fliz; nice to read of shared sentiments, and thanks for provided link, fliz - bang on, I'd say. melbguy1 -- @fliz, the new Magico S5 Mk2 speakers use 2 x 10" bass drivers which handle the low, mid & upper bass crossing over to the midrange at about 200Hz. The new 10" bass drivers have massive magnets which help saturate the structure around the coil which prevents eddy currents forming, which in concert with the lighter and stiffer hybrid carbon Nano-tube/Nano-graphene cone material should reduce distortion & improve dynamics. This sounds to be a very potent bass configuration, but in regards to the 2 x 10" woofers here used their chosen cross-over frequency (i.e.: 200Hz) sits in a rather sensitive area in the upper bass, and so would likely not have the desired effect - at least as advocated by author "W.A.J." to the article via supplied link - in regards to the equal importance of the lower mids (i.e.: ~250-500Hz) here mentioned. The excursion rate of the voice coil for the new 10" bass drivers is measured at 15 mm linear movement, twice as much as its predecessor, thus enabling plenty of air to be moved. The S5 Mk2 is also 1db more efficient than the old S5 (89db @4ohms), so it should have impressive bass. Bodes well for impressive LF performance, something I'm sure my own speakers (w/15" drivers in folded horns) can only dream of. There's obviously a trade-off here; either have the dynamics, presence and physicality a horn-loaded 15" unit (cut off at ~500Hz) can present from the lower mids and down to ~50Hz, or have lots of it sacrificed for strong LF-performance further down in the 25Hz region or thereabouts from smaller non-horn-loaded units. A horn could do this as well (i.e.: extend to 25Hz), but would have to be seriously massive in size to do this. That said 89dB is a far cry from 105dB sensitivity, and 15" horn-loaded drivers exsert very limited amounts of excursion which comes as a significant benefit in regards to their reproduction of the lower mids, also coupled with the high sensitivity and low distortion that follows. |
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