Victor TT 101 vs TT 81


I am aware of some of the differences regarding the motors of these two units, but I was wondering if anyone had insights as to the differences in sound (if any) and the differences in reliability (I'm guessing the 81 being simpler might be more reliable, however, it seems to have the better motor).  Any info will be appreciated.
rgs
Hi Halcro,

Thanks for all the links you have provided.  Although I had read them in the past, it was good to revisit.  I was surfing the Vinyl Engine JVC turntable section and I came across the QL 66F.  One of the threads you directed me to references your experience with a lower QL version (A5??), and how it impressed you.  It appears the 66F was one of the last higher end tt JVC made.  I don't care for its automatic controls, but it seems its motor borrows much the TT 101's tech, even more than the TT 81 did.  The 66F also uses a coreless motor and servo controls.  Have you ever had a chance to examine one?  Reading a couple of threads on the net suggest that it benefits from a lot damping of the plinth.  Considering it probably does not sell for much on the used market, I wonder how difficult it would be to remove its motor and motor electronics to use elsewhere. 
Hi rgs,

In the Vintage DD Thread, there are some Posts by HiHo
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/vintage-dd-turntables-are-we-living-dangerously?page=12
who is very knowledgeable about all the Victor models made only for the Japanese market, and we discussed the QL66F among others.

You started this Thread asking about the ’sonic’ differences between the TT-81 and TT-101.
To me, there appears to be none.
If, as it appears now....you are wedded to a Victor coreless motor.....that’s another kettle of fish altogether and I would strongly recommend that you wait for a good TT-101 to come along.
Good luck...👍😎
Thanks Halcro.  You are right, initially I thought I would go with the TT 81 if it was the same, but I think in the end my bias towards coreless will reign.  TT 101 it is.

Dear Lewm,

I have a guy but we are so busy making, upgrading, and repairing our stuff (400,000 customers) the days just run away before we can do anything but what we need done.

I have another possibility that I will check out this week, he is very good on servos and power supplies.

HW

I used the Classic Direct base

I do not know what it is? A company, a product or what?

Do you have a link for me?


I have thoughts of taking it back to Bill, now that the problem is sure to occur in his hands. He is a superb guy in all ways. However, I thought perhaps you may have a guy who is steeped in servo technology who might provide some insight.

did you solve the turntable problem with Bill Thallman?