Is high end audio to snooty for its own good?


I think it has become that way. Some people flaunt that they have high end systems and they listen to certain kinds of music and I think it puts the hobby in a negative light at times.
calvinj
I have ran it to great people in this hobby who loved the music and the sound.  A friend of mine and dealer David Baskin passed away a few months ago.  Amazing raidho d5 and all soulutions electronics.  $500,000 system great listening sessions I would tell him about jazz he hadn't heard.   We would go down for a listen every few months.  Great dealer and not snooty.  Lol.  Some people are about the hobby.  Some dealers and some hobbyist.  I've met some good down to earth folks in the hobby.  However, you run into the high brows every now and then.  Someone's car, audio system or cigars don't impress me. It's about the 5 or 6 hour listening sessions with your audio friends and enjoying whatever music you like to play.  If your circle is snooty and that's what you like them enjoy your company. If it's a classic common man group enjoy that too 

Sure, some of the larger-than-life celebrities of the Hi-Fi world can be eccentric, and yes, snooty.  But that's a personality trait, not a trait of the gear itself.  I don't begrudge those with the resources to invest big money into their stereo systems, and I rarely run into audiophiles, journalists or retailers who look down on me because I don't have such resources.  And when I do, I simply don't care.


I am very active in my local audio club.  Through my contacts with other regional clubs, I have noticed that the culture of each club differs dramatically.  Our club is as unpretentious as can be.  With a few exceptions, most of our members are dreamers, DIYers and/or music lovers.  Nobody is ever looked down upon because their system didn't cross the six-figure threshhold.  We hold our meetings in a variety of venues, but many meetings are held in members' homes with modest, but lovingly assembled systems.  I don't think any new visitor to one of our meetings would have described our club as "snooty".  On the contrary, we have a good time, joke around a lot, and generally treat each other with respect.  That doesn't mean we don't offer constructive criticism of the systems we hear, but it is never along the lines of "you can't get good sound unless you spend six figures".  I think we may have lost a member or two over the years because there aren't enough really high-dollar systems in the club.  I suppose for someone with one of these systems, listening to much more modest systems could be somewhat uninteresting.  But some of our members do have very expensive systems, and not one of them ever belittles the less expensive rigs in other members' homes.


As for the music, we make room for everything.  Would a rap CD clear the room and send people heading for the food  table?  Sure.  But I do the same when a drum or organ "spectacular" starts, or opera, for that matter.  So what?  Let someone who likes that stuff enjoy the sweet spot for a while.  Later, I'll wait my turn and put on a Porcupine Tree or Reverend Horton Heat CD, and the organ, drum solo, and opera afficianados can grab a bite to eat and have a chat in another room.  I might get some groans from some for my musical choices, but that's done in a spirit of friendship.  Heck, I've turned a few of the members on to PT and other artists.  Music is highly personal, and discovering new music through the club is one of the more rewarding aspects of belonging to it.  I barely listened to jazz or classical when I first joined.  Now, I have a growing collection of both.  All thanks to a group of very welcoming, non-judgemental, non-snooty audiophiles.

@bondmanp I agree with your assertions.  Great listening sessions with people who have different tastes.  We also take turns during our listening sessions playing CDs we like.  Each guy gets 30 min or an hour.  I've found out recently about some Christian artists from bethel music that I never heard but sound great.  I got a group of 5 guys that listen from time to time we have a guy with 300k system. A guy with a 20k system and couple of guys with 40k systems and we all can enjoy each other's systems.  Listening is fun and relaxing.  I don't do it to impress anyone.  If I did I would try to impress my real friends. Lol.  Not people I don't know.   Even in our group we got a couple of guys the dissect the music with a scalpel but we calm them down and get them back on their meds.  It's a joy in the hobby when you got your guys listening.  Enjoy your music. I started the thread because I went to a Lone Star Audio fest 5 years ago and I saw a snooty crowd and then I saw some diy guys and budget system guys. However I also saw some great audiophiles high end and non high end talk about the music and come together to enjoy both sides. Enjoy your music!  

Is it demeaning to call our audiophile pursuit a "hobby" or us as "hobbyists"?
A recent letter to Stereophile takes umbrage to the use of that word.
If by definition, a hobby is "a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in for relaxation" (Webster's), then I find no issue with the use of that word to refer to the audiophile world. And the arrogance of attempting to intellectually elevate our HOBBY to some higher, superior activity, seems to me to define "snooty".