Suspensions on turntable...really effective?

Geoffkait
You said, "Gases are compressible, too." I Never said they weren’t. Sheesh! Never said air is not a gas, either.
Furthermore, I said air is a fluid, not a liquid. Hel-looo!
Obviously liquids are not compressible, at least not generally speaking.

google is my friend.

A fluid is any substance in which the molecules are free to flow. This includes both gases and liquids.
A liquid is any substance in which molecules are free to flow, and volume is fixed or nearly fixed. Liquids are a subset of fluids.

Hmm
Could this be the reason that Lewm’s "small cans of Mandarin Orange slices in water (sealed, of course) footers" work so well for him and his turntables ? - quote taken from TT for life thread.

Now I think that Lewm uses OTL amplifiers ?
When I was using a couple big OTL monoblocks the temperature in the room would rise - quickly.

So Lewm a question for you out of curiosity.

Are your TT’s (and the footers containing water) in the same room as the amplifiers; and if so have you listened to your rig at say 65 degrees F and at 75 degrees F ? Be interested in any differences you found.

They say sound travels faster in warmer air, but that sound travels farther in colder air. And I know I have read that cartridge designers test out their cartridges at a specific temp and humidity level.
If I am dropping big dollars on a cartridge I would be seeking out this info from the designer.

As posted earlier this really is all about the sum of all the parts - including the room and music listener too.

Thx diamondears for letting me ramble. Took my mind off of markets, our dollar..for a bit anyway.

btw- an Audiogon search on those two tables in your last post produced many forum entries of info.

Happy Listening

Geoffkait
You said, "Gases are compressible, too." I Never said they weren’t. Sheesh! Never said air is not a gas, either.
Furthermore, I said air is a fluid, not a liquid. Hel-looo!
Obviously liquids are not compressible, at least not generally speaking.


google is my friend.

A fluid is any substance in which the molecules are free to flow. This includes both gases and liquids.
A liquid is any substance in which molecules are free to flow, and volume is fixed or nearly fixed. Liquids are a subset of fluids.

Thanks for validating what I said. So getting back to the the air spring device for a second it acts like a spring because air is compressible and the air inside the airspring is under considerable pressure, that pressure a function of the airspring and the load. I used one of my Nimbus platforms under my Very heavy Maplenoll turntable, so with the ballast (100 lb) plus the mass of the Maplenoll the air spring had to be pumped up to 80 lbs of pressure.

On my wooden floored chalet in Tennessee, my suspended Ariston TT sounds best. Here on my South Florida wood covered concrete floor, my chunk of bathroom sink matching fake marble Kenwood sounds fine.

Both have extra motor/platter/tonearm isolation from stock, mostly homemade sponge and foamy stuff O-Rings. 

Is there any TURNTABLE out there where I wouldn't be able to hear the unintended taps, touches and bumps on the rack and sound/vibrations from my subwoofer?

Cheapest you can recommend please?

See if you can find a used Oracle Delphi.