VPI or Pro-ject


Hi
I'm looking at getting a new turntable and considering either a Pro-ject or VPI.
I had a Rega P3 and just sold it.

I'm looking at possibly the VPI Prime or Pro-ject Extension 10.
I use a Devialet 200 for the rest of the duties.

I'm no expert in turntables so I'm seeking advice. I'm open to other models in either of these two brands but those examples are about how much I want to spend.

Advice please, thanks, Bill
mr_bill



I have a Dynavector 10x5. Its a hold over from my Scout. It sounds amazing on the prime. In fact it sounded like a entirely different cart.

I did have a friends 20x2 on the Prime. It sounds a little more detailed and refined. The same or bigger sound stage on everything. The bass is not as punchy. I have to admit I like the 10x5 better. More musical and fun. A lot of people would disagree with me but that is how I feel. Six moons agreed with me on a cart shoot out.  



https://www.avforums.com/review/vpi-prime-turntable-review.11784

This review suggest the Audio Technica AT33PTG/II is amazing cart on the prime. There has also been much talk of ART9 which cost 1000 bucks on audiogon. If the cheaper AT is a good match I am very curious to put the ART9 on the Prime.

VPI has cart suggestions on their website. They like MC ortofon cadenza series. They also have other brands listed on their website under the prime. You can also look at their user forum. Its filled with threads talking about what carts are being used on VPI tables.


Hope this helps. Don’t think you will go wrong with AT or Dynavector. Have fun


Very happy with my Pro Ject Extension 10. Not heard the others in my system but I'd bet all great tables. The Extension 10 is a very impressive and solid built table. Anyone who thinks less hasn't probably seen or heard one in person. I think Fremer did a review on it which is pretty dead on. Solid performer that delivers far beyond its price. I'm using a Parks Audio Budgie PP and granted it's not a mega buck PP but the Pro Ject still sounds fabulous and I dare say the Budgie is a great piece as well but not up to the Pro Ject. Only complaint is the finger lift stinks so you have to use the cue which I still don't have any regrets. Great table. Good luck dragging one home to demo as it is a heavy beast. There's not much press out there so I bet you can pick one up at a great price; isn't there a dealer selling one here at a nice price?  Also if you want to upgrade the cable you have to pull the arm to get to the DIN connector, but still not a big deal. Good luck.
Many good responses, just had to put my thought in... Above all trust your ears. Having heard BOTH the Project and the VPI Prime I love them both, but the things that led me to the VPI was the outstanding customer support, upgradable features that table has such as the SDS, outer ring and pulley changes that make it put it on IMHO as a poor man's HRX. They are now over 10k. 
As far as sound if you haven't heard the Project, expect a very good wide deep soundstage and very warm articulate sound if you use the package that includes the very good Blackbird or celebration cartridge. The very rich sound is also complemented by the very classy wood plinth and built in speed control. The Project offers more of a closed end upgrade path than the VPI. Still a solid choice but I hated the wall wart power supply( sonically reasonable but seems cheap for a 4K turntable). All other things equal, it is otherwise well deserving of a very fine rig. 
I fell in love with the Prime after owning a Classic 1 and wanting the 3D arm. IMHO the VPI arm blows away the Project arm that comes on the Extension table in every way in terms of resolution extension and outright liquidity of the music flow. I heard the Blackbird on that table too. Add the SDS or Eagle power supply and your rig will be in the same class as setups costing 10k or more. The VPI will have an even bigger soundstage and more slam in the lower registers without any bloat at all. The Project will sound a little more rounded but still full and slightly warmer. VPI is even working on options of adding a second arm on this table just like the newly released Avenger. I think you would have a hard time going wrong with either one. Which ever one you choose enlist the help of a decent dealer, they will know how to get the most music out of your investment. Hope this helps🎶🎶🎶
Have to add something else, I have a Soundsmith AIDA on our Prime that is outstanding. If you are not feeling the almost 2k investment, try out the Carmen... It too is an outstanding choice(about $800) The Ortophon 2M black is killer too, only $800 or so too. 
Thanks everyone. 
Not even sure how much to spend on a cartridge but it will definitely be under a grand. 
The Rega P3 was fine but a stop gap. I wanted to pick up a good table and just be done. I enjoy vinyl and want to start including it. I guess it takes me back to my youth. And, is supposed to sound better than digital - right? :/)