Speakers that are very accurate sounding but don't produce an emotional connection.


I have listened to a few speakers over the years that impressed me with their accuracy and presentation of the music, but just did not create an emotional response or connection. I have often wondered what that quality is in some speakers that produce an emotional connection with the listener. This quality has been identified by audiophiles, as "magical", "engaging"  "just right"  "euphonic"  "natural"  "true to life". " "satisfying"  "musical"....  I am sure there are at least 50  other  adjectives that could describe this "quality" of  sound . 

Considering the various aspects  of achieving  good and accurate sound by component synergy, is there a way to explain this so-called magical element that often eludes so many of us??.  I don't think such a feeling is temporal, conditioned by personal moods, or the phases of the moon or sun.  

Like to hear from members who have given some thought to the same issue.    Thanks,  Jim   

BTW, I know the thread is a bit out there, but  I don't think the topic is pointlessly pursuing the genie in the bottle. 


sunnyjim

Coli wrote:
"it’s more about speaker/room interaction. The more accurate the speaker, the less forgiving, you need to setup the room perfectly. Hence why most audiophile speakers are notoriously inaccurate, it helps to cover up shortcomings.

(If you have a non symmetrical room, you’ll never get what you are looking for) Try take that emotional speaker outdoors, I can guarantee you that the emotions will be all gone."

I agree that speaker/room interaction is a significant factor. The most engaging and emotional experiences I've had were with my own setup and only 2-3 times within the 70 or so audio rooms visited at audio shows. There's no question listening room and setup are crucial. Regarding symmetry - I'm certain there are many of us who have set up our extremely asymmetrical rooms with positive results. Often those asymmetries result in annoying resonances,  but sometimes asymmetry is the best and simplest way to mitigate resonances as well. A couple examples are vaulted ceilings and carpeted stairwells where the extra surface area is muffled/baffled somehow.


Among those engaging and emotional experiences I've had with my own setup, twice was outdoors. A huge porch covering in one case (one example: 18' high &10' extended outward). Vandersteen Quatros placed 6 ft beyond the covering, and dialed in to compensate for unusual bass resonance from the band-shell like covering. It was "engaging" because of how close it sounded to an outdoor acoustic show with some selections. Another time was with Joseph Audio Pulsars outside radiating over a pool and partially walled on one side and behind. I can't explain how full the bass was for the Pulsars. Not deep, but I was expecting a 50% loss of bass with so few walls and no ceiling. Was it because the 6" between the water and deck acted like a waveguide? Not sure. Tonally the Pulsars were as outstandingly balanced as always. There was no less engagement going from inside to outside.


Both speakers were driven with a VAC Ren 70/70.

Oxymoron. "Very accurate" is going to convey the music as intended and deliver the full emotional impact. Anything else is just a goofy coloured lens that makes everything sound similarly sweet or harsh or boomy or whatever colourful and eventually tiresome inaccuracies that the inadequate design brings.

Leading to the problem for many which is the constant switching of gear from one form of coloration to another - instead of remaining focussed on adding to the music library or new recordings of favourite material.

I get plenty of emotion listening to what the artist & producer intended without trying to second guess, correct or filter that. A great speaker will be like a chameleon - it will sound different according to each track played.
shadorne wrote:   "Very accurate" is going to convey the music as intended and deliver the full emotional impact.

Please understand your statement is an opinion. Some agree with you and others do not as is evident in this thread. Consider this if you will ....

You've heard the same excellent live recording for years on your extremely accurate system. You've listened to the same recording on other extremely accurate systems and you're moved every time by the realism and that feeling of being there during the recording. You know, with some accuracy, how it was intended to sound when recorded. Then one day you hear that same recording on another system, and on that system you're surprised at how clearly you can hear a cello. That same cello wasn't quite that "palpable" before on the other systems, and you've always relegated it somewhat into the background, but now on this system it's louder and more tonally "rich".

You know it's not accurate, but you love cellos and this one sounds wonderful now that it's front and center. 

Maybe this has never happened to you, and maybe you feel it never could happen to you. It's happened to me often enough that it's the reason I'm responding to the OP's post as well as the comments here.
I'll also add that "accurate" is not necessarily conveying the music as intended, but rather the RECORDING as produced.  Not always the same thing, as a number of posters have touched on.  There are a lot of old recordings (in classical, early DG and some Columbias come to mind) with great performances but questionable sonics which can sound very moving on a low-to-mid fi system but will make your ears bleed on a system with flat frequency response.
Sunnyjim

Considering the various aspects of achieving good and accurate sound by component synergy, is there a way to explain this so-called magical element that often eludes so many of us??

The Real World ?

http://cdn.head-fi.org/6/67/6754547a_Rodrigues-anechoicdealer.jpeg