That's a great scapegoat! Blame it on the Bilderberg group.
Audio Research discontinuing lower lines components?
I have looked at several components in Audio Research's line and they are discontinuing the LS17-se, PH8, and PH6. They discontinued the DAC 8. I know there is a new Ref 6 to replace the Ref 5se and their is a new Ref Phono 3 to replace the Ref Phone 2se coming out. I talked to my dealer and he stated that Audio Research seems to be making their components look more McIntosh like in the Galeo series.
The dealer stated their isn't going to be anything that he has heard that will replace the other lines at this point and that AR will be starting at the LS-27, which is $7500 for preamps. The Ref 75se is the beginning of the line for Amps, which I know, but man are they going the Mac route with prices, nothing to replace the DAC 8 and the other DAC in the line is $11,000, what's up with this, have you guys heard anything more.
The starting point for AR equipment is getting pretty high and the only way a newer person without means will be able to afford it will be to buy use, which could send the used prices up if there isn't anything else in the line. What do you guys think and what have you heard?
The dealer stated their isn't going to be anything that he has heard that will replace the other lines at this point and that AR will be starting at the LS-27, which is $7500 for preamps. The Ref 75se is the beginning of the line for Amps, which I know, but man are they going the Mac route with prices, nothing to replace the DAC 8 and the other DAC in the line is $11,000, what's up with this, have you guys heard anything more.
The starting point for AR equipment is getting pretty high and the only way a newer person without means will be able to afford it will be to buy use, which could send the used prices up if there isn't anything else in the line. What do you guys think and what have you heard?
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jmcgrogan ... You are comparing the price of a REF-3 to the REF-30? Ha ... that's not a fair comparison. The 2008 price of a REF-3 needs to be compared to the price of a new REF-6. REF-3 ... $10,000. REF-6 ... $14,000. I stick by my inflation point. Consider this: How does a government pay for a war that costs trillions of dollars without raising taxes? It doesn't. It finds a way to raise taxes while at the same time pulling the wool over the eyes of the taxpayer. That tax is called "inflation." Who suffers? Savers and those on fixed incomes. In other words, those who can least afford the inflation tax; old people and the frugal. Every dollar brought into existence through counterfeiting dilutes the worth of a dollar already in existence. The difference is ... if you or I were the counterfeiters, we go to jail. When the government counterfeits money through the banking cartel, its called Quantitative Easing. Remember the trillion-dollar bailouts? No taxes raised for that either. Look, every company has had their expenses rise over the years, including ARC. Have you looked at your household electric bill lately? Now imagine getting an electric bill for an entire factory. What's the current price of toner for your employer's copy machines today? How about the phone bill? How about the increase in payroll? Unless one runs one's own business, these expenses escape the eyes of the rank and file employees. Its been said many times ... If the American People were to ever realize what has been done to their monetary system, there would be a revolution by morning. I apologize for getting political on our favorite audio forum, but it had to be said. Happy listening ... |
ebm3,014 posts01-26-2016 8:52amHad ARC 20 yrs ago don't care now!! Boy, you're an old f...!!! Smart move, there are NO innovations past 20 yrs. |
@oregonpapa- Yep! Prices certainly do go up when a company starts buying multi-million Dollar buildings in
Milan, Tokyo, and Berlin, like they did in downtown New York City. Then decks them out with indoor pools and roof-top gardens. I didn't mind spending my money for those great sounding ARC preamps I owned, years back. Damned if I'd invest in Fine Sound Group's excesses though. |
^^^ I don't want to get into a pissing match with you rodman ... but where can you find a suitable building these days in Milan, Tokyo or Berlin for less than "multi-millions?" And by the way, I don't think the employees of ARC are enjoying those "rooftop gardens" in Minnesota this time of year. Do you belong to the "profits are evil" crowd??? How's Bernie Sanders looking to you these days?? *lol* |
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