Dear cleeds: In all my internet audio forums I never did it.
Let me to ask: from where you have that " idea "?
R.
Let me to ask: from where you have that " idea "?
R.
Tonearm recommendation
Hello all,
Recently procured a Feickert Blackbird w/ the Jelco 12 inch tonearm.
The table is really good, and its a keeper. The Jelco is also very good, but not as good as my Fidelity Research FR66s. So the Jelco will eventually hit Ebay, and the question remains do I keep the FR66s or sell that and buy something modern in the 5-6 K range. My only point of reference is my old JMW-10 on my Aries MK1, so I don't know how the FR66s would compare to a modern arm. So I'd like to rely on the collective knowledge and experience of this group for a recommendation.
Keep the FR66s, or go modern in the 5-6K range, say a Moerch DP8 or maybe an SME.
Any and all thoughts and opinions are of course much appreciated.
Cheers, Crazy Bill
Recently procured a Feickert Blackbird w/ the Jelco 12 inch tonearm.
The table is really good, and its a keeper. The Jelco is also very good, but not as good as my Fidelity Research FR66s. So the Jelco will eventually hit Ebay, and the question remains do I keep the FR66s or sell that and buy something modern in the 5-6 K range. My only point of reference is my old JMW-10 on my Aries MK1, so I don't know how the FR66s would compare to a modern arm. So I'd like to rely on the collective knowledge and experience of this group for a recommendation.
Keep the FR66s, or go modern in the 5-6K range, say a Moerch DP8 or maybe an SME.
Any and all thoughts and opinions are of course much appreciated.
Cheers, Crazy Bill
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Dear fleib: """ I assume you meant propagating or amplifying. """ exactly and non-damped tonearms are the worst about. I call " generator " because during playing the tonearm instead to kill those distortions makes biguer and helps to generate addional ones. If you don’y like that word call it in other way, the important issue is that you understand it and I can see that you did it and if you did it ( because you know me very well. I think? ) why those kind of posts from your part? I said " over and over " because almost no one post the right answer explain it why I’m totally wrong or why they are recomended " this or that ". Almost all only say: "" use this or use that " but with out any single reason that can be foundation ( right or wrong. ) for what they say. Almost all are accustomed that way: " don’t use that or don’t use this "" and I want to learn why " yes " or why " no " or if I’m wrong to analize and if it’s the case I can rectify and learn about any audio subject. Btw, that gentleman was not Dgarretson because Dgarretson knows more more that that gentleman. Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
Raul, *I said " over and over " because almost no one post the right answer explain it why I’m totally wrong or why they are recomended " this or that ". * Because it doesn't work like that. You made a case for damping. Damping is one factor, not the main consideration. In the initial post we read that the Jelco arm is inferior. I think you would agree, yet the Jelco is fluid damped at the pivot. Clearly, there are other factors. You talk about ringing and amplifying vibrations. In my experience with these FR arms, the right headshell combined with a suitable low compliance cartridge, negates this consideration. I've heard them with a small amount of armtube damping and less than perfect match with cart compliance and still nice results. Maybe the 4 point would be better, I don't know, but I don't think it falls within the price constraints. This is a matter of opinion not a case of right/wrong. Sincerely, |
Raul - you give me a lecture on how to test properly, but you can't even install a cartridge properly in your own system. rauliruegas 02-04-2016 4:58am Like you I own an original Dynavector Karat Nova 13D. Here is a video showing you the error in your set up. You installed this cartridge such that the headshell is mounted upside down in your tonearm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-imxZHS8 Furthermore I think you are wrong to adjust the SPL and listening position when you change the TT set up - the rest of the system should remain constant for true comparisons. |
Dear dover: """
but you can't even install a cartridge properly in your own system.""" I never used my two 13 D with its original headshell and never in that tonearm. That picture comes and was only to showed on Agon when I sold one of my 13D. I never used with the original headshell because I want it to connect directly to the internal wires on my tonearms with out all those signal degrading connectors and you can see it in that pictures. So, your post is a misunderstood from your part because you did not know that. Relax, as you any one wants to " get " me on errors and mistakes to disregards my opinions or explanations, I understand this and no problem from my part. Regards and enjoy the music, R. |
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