Tonearm recommendation

Dear dover: """  but you can't even install a cartridge properly in your own system."""

I never used my two 13 D with its original headshell and never in that tonearm.  That picture comes and was only to showed on Agon when I sold  one of my 13D.

I never used with the original headshell because I want it to connect directly to the internal wires on my tonearms with out all those signal degrading connectors and you can see it in that pictures.

So, your post is a misunderstood from your part because you did not know that. Relax, as you any one wants to " get " me on errors and mistakes to disregards my opinions or explanations, I understand this and no problem from my part.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

Dover: Unfortunatelly you failed this time but just keep trying because I make mistakes every single day. Good luck on this, maybe next time.

Btw, it's incredible that you took all the time to say all the world about the mistake of Raul.
Dover who cares about Raul? , no one and now you makes me " famous " because my " mistake ". Thank's for that and as I said: keep trying as JW.

Btw, that tonearm in the picture is a very good Sony, recomended and and way better that your FRs. Well almost anything is better.

That cartridge I put on sale is still with me because the Agon buyer never pay for it and if you remember in that time I write in the advertasing that the buyer could choice for the original female cartridge connectors or the way I have it: with male connectors for tonearms like Triplanar, Graham and the like.

Well, now I can see you showed the " cooper " in you. Good to know it.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

Dear fleib:  """  With all your ear training I'm surprised you can't hear the affect of over-damping a tonearm. One can MEASURE a negative affect on transient response by over-damping. It also tends to kill the natural sustain of acoustic instruments. I agree with Dover, arms are easily over-damped.  """

problem is that you don't really read with care my posts and additional that you are very dogmatic. 
Look and I repeat: WE CAN'T OVERDAMP A TONEARM EVER.

Before you post again on this subject please re-read what I posted to dover where the essence is here:

"""  in an audio perfect world with out TT/platter/arm board/tonearm/  vibrations/resonances/feedback/generated noise/ system/room air pollution and with perfect LPs  the cartridge pick up the information exist in the LP grooves and before and after the cartridge makes its transducer job what we have and pass through the tonearm internal wires is just the recorded grooves modulations with no single added " noises " of any kind and this modulation grooves music information is what you, me and every one want to listen: THE PURE MUSICAL INFORMATION ....."""""""


in that Pure Muscal Information comes all that transient response and the natural sustain of acoustic instruments. In the LP grooves modulations comes all type of " sounds " recorded, almost nothig is lost and all these is what we want to listen with out adding NOTHING so please tell me: how can we overdap a tonearm?, for me it's impossible to do it because all those recorded information in the LP grooves modulations goes in the tonearm internal wires.
Remember that we are talking on a " analog perfect world " where any additional " information " ( name it noise, distortions, resonances or what ever you want to name it. ) only goes against that " transient response, the natural sustain of acoustic instruments and several other things.

So, because we don't live in a perfect audio world we must to " overdamp " the tonearm.
I know to what kind of quality sound you are accustom to just like almost every one else. I was there too.

Try to think " out of the box " try to ask you:

HEY WHAT IF SEVERAL OF THE INFORMATION I RECEIVED THROUGH MY AUDIO LIFE 20-50 years ) WAS WRONG INFORMATION?

and that is my advise to any audiophile that wants to grow-up.

So, the worst tonearm design is the non-damped one. Btw, the Jelco is way superior to the 64/66 but his owner can'tdiscriminate in between, that's all.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

Dear fleib:  Could you overdamp a TT or a cartridge?, no you can't. What any audiophile wants is to " overdamp " those analog rig items/links to can honor what's in the LP grooves modulations.
We want that the analog rig be not only transparent but that disappears ( but the grooves modulations picked up by the cartridge/transducer. ) from the reproduced sound. Everything comes in those LP grooves modulations and comes in " pristine " condition.

We are not talking what we like or what we are accustom to but what must be like it or not what you percieve through ears/brain/body.

Of course that I can be wrong and as always I'm willing to retify if necessary.

R.