Is New Vinyl Exempt from Loudness Wars?


I'm seeing new vinyl sold in many unexpected places these days.  

For those who have bought a lot of new vinyl,  I'm wondering if these tend to be mastered differently from similar newer CD  remasters that often show effects of the "Loudness Wars"?

Is it a mixed bag perhaps?   Much like CDs?

I wonder because if I knew there was a different mastering done for new vinyl I might consider buying some if I knew. 

But new vinyl is expensive and I would not want to get essentially the same end result in regards to sound quality as I would get with CD for much less.

Just wondering.
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Digital can be made to sound however you want it to, good, bad or old fashioned LP.

I don't doubt it. Its too bad for those hear (sic) on Audio-Gon(e), that the popular younger market guides how it sounds.

Cool product Izotape Vinyl

But I think its missing on the real reason that "some" people are addicted to vinyl.

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and lets not forget another real tangible reason for "some"

Moldy smell scenting

... that can only from from finding that treasured 40 year old unused album at your local Good will.

But from what I can see the the real marketing issue with the Izotape vinyl product.....its free.

Everyone knows if you want to sell something, you need to attach a price to it or people will think its not worth buying.
And in this audio hobby - the higher price .........  


Adele 25 update. (for those following this adventure)

I gave the Adele 25 cd one more try...yeah I know ......stubborn.
So charged up the ESL's in room B. No luck same symptoms.
So I turned off the sub and tried it again. Now she appeared to be really screaming at me during the chorus.
My wife was not impressed. I think all this activity triggered by Mapman's thread has now made me sick of Adele.
but all is not lost.....
A memorable moment when my daughter came home and I passed her the cd.
It slipped out of my hand, fell on the floor and the cd case fell apart into 3 pieces.
The Cd fell out. My daughter put the cd in her Apple computer - and guess what - it worked !
Try that with an LP and see what happens.
but the biggest revelation

.....it sounded pretty good.



Hello
by Leroy Sanchez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlZ9kjCrGJw




Hello
by Lucky Chops


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mOMmP_aKso&feature=youtu.be

notice the lower octave during the chorus. works better for me.
maybe Adele can give it another go ? after she stops counting the money.

coffee done--have a nice day everyone.

ct, thanks for all that.   I agree in general.

BTW Springsteen is a mixed bag for me but Darkness is perhaps my favorite end to end of all his releases and I have no issues with my CD (ripped to music server) copy for what it is.

BTW, playing CDs versus streaming ripped CDs from computer disk storage is another good topic to consider when assessing the overall utlity of modern digital versus vinyl.    My overall satisfaction with digital jumped way into the green when I made that transition.   I have not played a CD in years other than in my car.   Its rip and stream only these days baby!  No looking back.
I know I probably shouldn’t say this but there’s no escape from the horror of overly aggressive dynamic range compression. Shucks, even SACDs and Japanese SHM CDs and gasp DOWNLOADS are not exempt. You might even say you rip what you sow.

The Adele that I am most familiar with is the tune "Skyfall" which was the theme song for the recent James Bond movie. I know and like it from a class at the gym (balance). I only have an mp3 download from Amazon so far and its not bad, fairly listenable overall I would say. Lossless digital version is surely better.

I do notice that orchestral soundtrack recordings on CD tend to fair pretty well these days. Sometimes they are exceptional. I think its because people hear this music on a large scale on a "good" system at any good quality local theater these days so the soundtrack releases try to retain that appeal. Although in general of course modern acoustic or orchestral music tends to fair better in terms of DR I think than a lot of more electronically amplified pop music. Same holds true with live concerts. If you go to enough well produced live concerts using electronic amplification you realize that similar stuff recorded and listened too at home is really not that much different. So if the goal is believe that what you hear at home is what you would hear live, no problem there in many cases.  If the goal is for every recording to sound like the best, well we know how that always works out....
Mapman wrote,

"The Adele that I am most familiar with is the tune "Skyfall" which was the theme song for the recent James Bond movie. I know and like it from a class at the gym (balance). I only have an mp3 download from Amazon so far and its not bad, fairly listenable overall I would say. Lossless digital version is surely better."

The lossless digital version must surely be better? Surely you jest. Take a gander at Adele’s page on the dynamic range database link below. See if you can detect why someone recently posted regarding Adele’s poor showing when it comes to dynamic range.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Adele&album=

Cheerios