Neutral electronics are a farce...

The difference is one is static phase error and one is dynamic phase error.
I am referring to dynamic phase error caused by the amplifying process.

If you have a dynamic speaker with tweeter, mid and bass drivers and they are time aligned (distance from you ear and delivering a coherent sound)  and you add a shim under the back of the speaker stands so they are now tilted down slightly - you would still be able to hear the music but the coherency will be off by the same amount all the time. this is due to the physical maneuvering of the cabinets (mis-aligned). The tweeter is now somewhat closer to you and so the highs will now arrive too soon.
This is an example of a static phase error. if you had someone take your speakers and rocked them back and forth while you were listening - that would be dynamic phase errors. It is a process of modulation not tilt.

A tilted speaker still gives you a view of the soundstage (but from slightly different view)

A modulated speaker cabinet will cause the sounstage to blurr like a shake table. Under those conditions it is difficult to nail down where everything is.

Bottom line - even with perfect bolted down loudspeakers with good coherency they cannot project a stable image due to the dynamic modulation of the velocity fed to the speakers by an unstable amplifier.

90% of all system problems are from the electronic amplifiers.
10% is all the cables, power cords and magic pebbles.

Phase modulation is gross amounts of distortion since your entire perception of a live soundstage depends on objects not shifting around during the playback process. (like someone shaking you speakers)

It is literally the same thing as a photograph taken out of focus.

Remove the shaky nature of the display and everything is stable and in focus.

That can only happen inside the amplifier circuitry.

Roger

I've heard speakers that you can pick up and move around and all the while the soundstage is perfectly focused. Not all speakers do that but some do.

The first time I head that Mike Maloney was moving his Tesla loudspeakers around while I was in the listening chair during a dealer demo. The soundstage was very focused on that speaker.

Since a set of our early amps was playing at the time, must be that we got that focus thing several decades ago.

Bottom line - even with perfect bolted down loudspeakers with good coherency they cannot project a stable image due to the dynamic modulation of the velocity fed to the speakers by an unstable amplifier.

It must be that its all in the setup. I've yet to hear a functioning amplifier than can't project a stable image.

I've yet to hear a functioning amplifier than can't project a stable image.

I think it is a matter of how stable and how focused compared to live.

It takes a tremendous amount of discipline and control during the amplifying process to not tamper with the delicate location information streamed to you via the sound waves.

Most high end systems do get it right except it does not approach what you need to have your brain latch onto what appears to be an actual live event.

You may be able to hear what seems like a clear image of someone playing a violin and perhaps where he is standing but it does not compare to being able to hear and perceive gestures like those caused by the actual playing and bowing movements. That kind of detail was normally available only if you attended the performance. Once you hear the difference between high end systems and actual "live" sound reproduction it becomes obvious that it is not even close. Its a whole different experience.

After listening for some time under those conditions - the typical high end system sounds distorted for the first time.

Because of some legal things that are happening I cannot tell you what I have done to make this happen but I do have auto-focus circuitry that totally stabilizes the venue.

It is similar to the "Steadi-cam" system used in motion pictures to remove vibration from the optical image. It is impossible to obtain massive resolution and focus without the stabilization technique in place.

I had to understand the effects of the burn-in process because it did contaminate the auto-focus circuitry. The good news is that when it is burned-in the contamination goes away.

It is the non-symmetrical charge/discharge rate of a component that still has forming current in the equation. This causes the component to have 2 separate impedance values depending on charge or discharge. The forming current is typically added to the charge direction but not always.
Moving equipment between power sources triggers some additional break-in.  If you take your gear to someone else's house and set it up with a slightly lower power line voltage than your house - the main filter caps will attempt to re-form in the downward direction. If the power line is slightly higher it will require more forming current until it finishes. Focus can only be achieved in the absence of break-in.

Roger

My setup sounds like live from most any perspective in the room.   That's exactly what I was shooting for

mapman,

It sounds like it is well broken in and probably tubes - yes?
Finding a way to match the good attributes of tubes is difficult in SS but not impossible. Most SS gear cannot do it. Class A does not guarantee perfection.

Roger