Thank you for your replies. Unfortunately, most missed the mark. I like vintage audio equipment in the same way I like vintage automobiles, vintage books, vintage paintings, vintage architecture and vintage furniture. Yes, I am still interested in an intelligent discussion regarding vintage bookshelf speakers. Thank you yakbob, yashu and johnnyb53 for your thoughtful comments. I hope to hear from more people who can address the specifics of my initial post. Best wishes.
Searching for the ideal vintage bookshelf speakers.
Greetings Gentlemen. I am looking for the ideal pair of vintage bookshelf speakers. My "listening room" doubles as library and design studio. It is approximately 12 x 30 x 8 feet with wood floors, one small rug, several wooden cases lining the walls, and no drapes.
The speakers will sit horizontally atop two bookcases which are against one of the 12-foot wide walls. Maximum speaker dimensions: 31h x 16w x 12d inches. I will not be buying a subwoofer, so I want speakers that can deliver the broadest and clearest dynamic range possible.
My preference is for sealed box or front vented three-way speakers. I have selected the following prospects: Altec 874A Segovia, Acoustic Research 11, Harbeth Super HL5, KLH Model 5, Rogers Export Monitor, Allison Four and Spendor SP-1.
If you have direct experience with these speakers, I would highly value your thoughts regarding 1) quality of cabinet construction 2) clarity and naturalness of sound 3) warmth vs brightness of tones 4) open vs tight sonic image 5) listener fatigue value and 6) speaker preference for tube or solid state amplification.
I listen to a wide variety of music: medieval, renaissance, swing, beebop, blues, Scandinavian folk, Celtic, organ, opera and orchestral, and a good helping of classic rock.
Many thanks for your ideas. Best wishes.
The speakers will sit horizontally atop two bookcases which are against one of the 12-foot wide walls. Maximum speaker dimensions: 31h x 16w x 12d inches. I will not be buying a subwoofer, so I want speakers that can deliver the broadest and clearest dynamic range possible.
My preference is for sealed box or front vented three-way speakers. I have selected the following prospects: Altec 874A Segovia, Acoustic Research 11, Harbeth Super HL5, KLH Model 5, Rogers Export Monitor, Allison Four and Spendor SP-1.
If you have direct experience with these speakers, I would highly value your thoughts regarding 1) quality of cabinet construction 2) clarity and naturalness of sound 3) warmth vs brightness of tones 4) open vs tight sonic image 5) listener fatigue value and 6) speaker preference for tube or solid state amplification.
I listen to a wide variety of music: medieval, renaissance, swing, beebop, blues, Scandinavian folk, Celtic, organ, opera and orchestral, and a good helping of classic rock.
Many thanks for your ideas. Best wishes.
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unclechoppy, a few thoughts based upon some decades of experience. First, the term "bookshelf speaker" has an unfortunate evolution. It is true it connotes speakers of a size and weight that could fit and be supported by a bookshelf. But very few of them sounded as good there as compared to placement on stands and out away from the walls. Your 4th point includes imaging and only a few speakers have been designed to image well close to a wall and surrounded by other objects on bookshelves. Second, with your appreciation of "vintage audio", understand that some repair/updating will be likely. Many woofers and some mid-range drivers were built with foam surrounds which may not survive even 20 years. Fortunately surrounds can be replaced. Crossovers will likely include parts which benefit from upgrading, particularly capacitors. A number of "vintage" speakers included tone switches with two to five positions. Those too may require replacement. Cosmetics are a personal choice but finding 30 year old speakers with good finish on the cabinets and speaker cloth which is not soiled or ripped may not be easy. Of course they can be restored too. Third, I've never owned any of the speakers you listed, though I have heard some specifically and others in similar models. From my experiences I can recommend two choices if you want to pursue this. The Dynaco A-25 (or rare A-25XL) if deep bass is not too important, and the Large Advent if bass is important. The A-25 can be driven by smaller amps (20 - 60 wpc) and sound good with either tube or SS of reasonable quality. The Advent will need more power (50 - 200 wpc). I've never heard those driven by tubes but something with KT-88, 6550, or the new KT-150 may be fine. Also, both are 2-way systems, thus easier to restore. Lastly, the danger in recommending any old/used component is it will depend on what you can find in your price range. I could suggest you get the Blast-off X 1000 but while looking for that you might miss the QRD which would be just as good or better. Therefore, having a list of candidates rather than one specific model will be best. And allow some $ out of your budget for restorations mentioned above, just like that vintage auto. Good luck, and let us know what you find. |
Your requested specifics on Spendor SP1: 1. Thin walls but solid. Fine workmanship. Mine still look great. 2. Extremely natural realistic presentation. Vocals are marvelous. 3. No brightness. Leans towards warm, musical with sufficient detail. 4. Wide open soundstage - however you can pinpoint specific instruments in small combos, etc. 5. No listener fatigue. I listen for hours to all types is music. 6. I always used a SS amp. Have heard they work well with tubes. Hope this helps |
A detailed audiophile technical specifications of Spendor SP1: yashu129 posts03-08-2016 12:49pmYour requested specifics on Spendor SP1: |
Unclechoppy, There is a certain satisfaction and appreciation owning vintage equipment. Of the speaker choices you've listed, I have owned the AR-10tt; it used the same components as the AR-11 but also included adjustments for bass along with adjustments for midrange and treble the 11 had. They were excellent sounding and am sure they still would be today if in restored condition. They had the classic New England or East coast presentation of smooth natural sound. Very easy and enjoyable listening, with a wide dispersion, and nice clean simple looks. I can't comment on their imaging since when I owned them, imaging wasn't talked about as much(late seventies), but I'm sure the 11's would perform well. You might also want to consider the AR-LST or AR-LST-2. When I first listened to the LST it was the finest sounding speaker I had ever heard, but that was some 40 years ago. They don't come up for sale very often, and when they do, they're normally expensive, and most likely need a lot of work. Plus they're heavy-ninety and sixty pounds. The AR-11's are probably over fifty pounds so your bookshelves will need to be very sturdy for these speakers. We are not talking about vintage acoustic windup victrolas here. These were very well designed and made loudspeakers. I wish I still had my AR-10tt's. Best of luck in your vintage search. |
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