O-10, very good advise, and I do accept Rok as he is; that is why I am still here and continue to interact with him. I would only add that the same should apply to all.
Rok, "retractions" cannot be demanded. I am not sure what exactly you want me to detract from my "first paragraph"; although I realize some of what I wrote is of a personal nature. Now, and maybe this will give you some insight into (as O-10 said) "who I am", and why your tone (often sarcastic), your rants , belligerence, and your sometimes insulting comments (like the ones directed at Acman3) set a certain tone in these discussions. Additionally, we are discussing subjects that are not simply "fun" (as you once said). I take these subjects very seriously and comments that you have made are every bit as much of a personal nature for me; the reasons why should be obvious. From my vantage point you don't own the comments that you make and are unwilling to see why, in the context of a discussion, saying something like "As usual the Frogman missed the boat" (just one that comes to mind) might, just might, cause ill will. Don't get me wrong, I don't need you approval on music matters; but it should be obvious why some of this can rub someone the wrong way. The truth is that you have a history of creating ill will on many of this forum's threads; not because "there are a lot of bullies out there", but because you don't practice what you preach: "words matter". So, I would encourage to think about your "style" a bit more; or at least be a little more conscious of how it affects those around you. Or not.
As before I am willing to move on and go about the business of sharing and talking music; hopefully in a respectful way, disagreements and all. I don't expect, and certainly am not asking, you to change anything; we are all big boys. However, anyone who insists on simply ranting without much editorializing needs to be prepared for a reaction that may not be what one's liking.
Peace.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xV8HT0Xb6q0
Without a doubt, one of the greatest saxophone solos on a mainstream-pop hit record. By no one other than the great Phil Woods; even if he is "fat" as Rok is quick to point out to us :-)
Rok, "retractions" cannot be demanded. I am not sure what exactly you want me to detract from my "first paragraph"; although I realize some of what I wrote is of a personal nature. Now, and maybe this will give you some insight into (as O-10 said) "who I am", and why your tone (often sarcastic), your rants , belligerence, and your sometimes insulting comments (like the ones directed at Acman3) set a certain tone in these discussions. Additionally, we are discussing subjects that are not simply "fun" (as you once said). I take these subjects very seriously and comments that you have made are every bit as much of a personal nature for me; the reasons why should be obvious. From my vantage point you don't own the comments that you make and are unwilling to see why, in the context of a discussion, saying something like "As usual the Frogman missed the boat" (just one that comes to mind) might, just might, cause ill will. Don't get me wrong, I don't need you approval on music matters; but it should be obvious why some of this can rub someone the wrong way. The truth is that you have a history of creating ill will on many of this forum's threads; not because "there are a lot of bullies out there", but because you don't practice what you preach: "words matter". So, I would encourage to think about your "style" a bit more; or at least be a little more conscious of how it affects those around you. Or not.
As before I am willing to move on and go about the business of sharing and talking music; hopefully in a respectful way, disagreements and all. I don't expect, and certainly am not asking, you to change anything; we are all big boys. However, anyone who insists on simply ranting without much editorializing needs to be prepared for a reaction that may not be what one's liking.
Peace.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xV8HT0Xb6q0
Without a doubt, one of the greatest saxophone solos on a mainstream-pop hit record. By no one other than the great Phil Woods; even if he is "fat" as Rok is quick to point out to us :-)