For years I cleaned my records by hand. I then bought a VPI 16.5 machine for about $600 and was in 7th heaven...still am. It was a huge improvement and changed my LP listening experience. Now I'm reading here about guys that have had the same machine moving up to more expensive brands... and getting much better results. Wow....this hobby never stops, there's always something better out there...and more expensive. A more expensive machine may yield better results for me, but I'm good just where I'm at. I'm not going to pay more for the record cleaner than I paid for my phono preamp or turntable.
Why are record cleaners so expensive?
Full disclosure: I have only the Spin-Clean record cleaner and a Hunt EDA brush to clean my vinyl, but as someone who's been in the digital side of audiophilia for decades, and as someone who knows how much gear can get in any dedicated hobby, I'm still curious as to why a high end vinyl cleaner can cost more than three grand.
I'm not disputing the price; after all, Smith said that something's worth whatever someone pays for it. Moreover, a high end record cleaner might be able to do things to vinyl that nothing else can. Still, paying three grand for an Audio Desk cleaner seems a bit out of reason. $3K can buy a good set of speakers; a hand-made fly-fishing rod based on your height and weight and arm length; two weeks at a Fijian resort for two; a custom-made suit from an Italian mill. So why is a glorified vacuum cleaner $3K?
Again, not flaming, just curious. Enlighten me?
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I'm not disputing the price; after all, Smith said that something's worth whatever someone pays for it. Moreover, a high end record cleaner might be able to do things to vinyl that nothing else can. Still, paying three grand for an Audio Desk cleaner seems a bit out of reason. $3K can buy a good set of speakers; a hand-made fly-fishing rod based on your height and weight and arm length; two weeks at a Fijian resort for two; a custom-made suit from an Italian mill. So why is a glorified vacuum cleaner $3K?
Again, not flaming, just curious. Enlighten me?
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OP poses a good question. Go to Amazon and search for ""ultra sonic cleaner". You will drop a record when you see the prices. Dont get me wrong; the machines look great, although some who have the machines are beginning to ask whether the high frequency scrubbing is scrubbing the high frequency data off the grooves, based on their actual listening experience: very quiet, but losses on the high end. There ought to be a way to test for this. I would like some comfort on this point before committing an entire collection to the process. |
From what I've read, the high frequency units dislodge smaller particles, are gentler than the 40hz units, and require more time to get the job done. I'm in process of shifting from a $170 40hz Chinese machine to a $1350 Elma Sonic German unit that sweeps 37hz-80hz with more power. The Chinese unit does slightly better than my VPI 16.5. I'm hoping for more performance from the Elma. |
LMAO I am sorry but I have been in this hobby for years and not meaning to start a flaming war but seriously thousands for a record cleaner? I literally am shaking my head right now because the 1st thing comes to mind is Harley Davidson riders. Total sheep. Buy into anything Harley. If it's branded HD they flock like sheep and will spend $$$$ because of either ignorance or buy into their expert marketing. Guys really I get bored also and over analyze this hobby but wake up and smell the roses. If it makes you feel better and have the money to waste feel free but your conscience has to get the better of you. Geez!!! |
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I am sorry but I have been in this hobby for years and not meaning to
start a flaming war but seriously thousands for a record cleaner? ... If it makes you feel better and have the money to waste feel free but
your conscience has to get the better of you." I don't understand. Are you saying that if you think spending thousands of dollars on a record cleaner is a waste, my conscience should keep me from buying one? |
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