Why are record cleaners so expensive?

Terry

The question I was trying to raise is whether an ultrasonic cleaner achieves its results at the expense of loss of high frequency data. There have been some anecdotal reports of this result:  cleaned records are silent, but lacking in presence. If true, this would be a serious problem, as it goes to a principal benefit of vinyl as a music source.  One could test for this by measuring frequency response before and after ultrasonic cleaning. 

Steve

dgarretson:

I’d be interested to know how many records you’ve been running in your Chinese made (40khz?) tank with the Vinyl Stack while still being able to get consistently good results on every side of every record?

Are you using the "wider" spacers that Vinyl Stack offers as an option?

Obviously you just got the Elma Sonic cleaner, but I am curious how "even" you find the cleaning with the Elma cleaner with varying number(s) of records loaded on the Vinyl Stack? If I was going to buy a tank cleaner to use then I’d probably also want to get the Elma P60H.

I’ve been cleaning with Audio Desk and Klaudio machines for almost 3 years now, and have 2 of each machine, but tank cleaners are interesting since they would allow increased productivity, but I’d need to be sure that quality would be as good or better than the "single slot" machines. How are you drying your records?

Much of what I’ve read online in the last 3 years indicates that 80khz would be useful, and apparently smaller cavitation bubbles are gentler on the records, all other things being equal. Another option would be a 60khz tank, I know Sonix makes one, and it may even be US made, so more than Chinese units, but less $ than the German made Elma.

Thanks,
Dave

Samzx12, I envy your moto location. I did the Blue Ridge & Diamondback loop last fall on the Ninja with full bags and the wife. On a side trip I followed three local long-beards with ladies on Harleys from the ridge down into a valley for gas.  I was fairly impressed how well they ran their hogs through the twisties.  It's a great place to learn.    

The Smokies are some of the best roads in this part of the country. Thats hilarious you following the HD guys as unfortunately I have done that several times. Some of those guys can ride and some get majorly pissed off if you pass them. Let the faster riders through plain and simple. But like you I did follow this guy and his lady throught Deals Gap one pass and he could ride. The dude was dragging hard parts through every corner so I stayed back and enjoyed the show. When we stopped at the Overlook I went over and shook his hand and said great job throwing that heavy bike and dragging parts. He laughed and said thanks and we chatted it up for awhile.