Frogman, that record had absolutely nothing to do with the discussion concerning "Blue Note".
It's quite evident that you know almost nothing about Grant Green; maybe you should read over the music posts.
Enjoy the music.
Jazz for aficionados
Jazz for aficionados
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
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Qdrone, this is about Grant Greens music; it wasn't necessary for us to know about Grant Greens habit. orpheus10 2,793 posts 01-23-2011 10:51am Qdrone, could you name the stuff to avoid, I would like to buy it. qdrone 799 posts 01-23-2011 1:29pm Anything that says never released or only released in Japan. Or in box sets where you have newly discovered tracks (Mosiac has one or two sets with Green) I actualy posted for everyone to understand the times these recordings were made,heroin was problem among many musicians,I'm sorry that your so full of yourself that you thought i was just responding to you. Well now that Mr. Qdrone, has told you what records to avoid, maybe you can evaluate those records and get back to me, Mr. Frogman. Enjoy the music. |
Frogman, I believe that Green’s playing can not be chronologically divided on jazz (ante ’soul’) and post ’jazz’ period. I have just checked some of the dates where he played in that style on others people albums, like with Lou Donaldson, and its obvius that while on his solo projects he was in ’jazz’ , on other occasions he was already in ’soul jazz’ or what ever we should call it, and those albums were recorded as early as 1962. like ’Natural Soul’. https://youtu.be/o4tIhsfcxyM Probably the ’jazz scene’ was never so pure, or it was bigger than the audience, so there was no big enough market to sustain all that. I guess that is one of the reasons that contributed to change in styles (for worst,imho) in years to come. As for George Benson, I was never his fan. This would be my pick. If I have not mentioned him before, this is a must opportunity. Here is the link Ivan Joe Jones https://youtu.be/kUVNIJl6h38 https://youtu.be/8PleEvRgGOc https://youtu.be/sOiPlxCqXUA |
As for jazz ’purists’ among us, (meaning Rok this time) I am posting this two next clips, of two (in fact three ) great albums that everyone should have. First is called ’Best Coast Jazz’ from 1954.with Clifford Brown and all star group. Here is the link https://youtu.be/YCwPup7mmJA From the same session, it can be found one single edition now, because of length they were cut on two lp’s. https://youtu.be/w5BGbjqUWns And if that is not enough for this jazzy Sunday, here is another album. It is Johnny Griffins ’Studio Jazz Party’ from 1960. Hope you will like it. Frogman, before you look who plays the trumpet, tell me how do you like it https://youtu.be/Wu0qnePU3Os https://youtu.be/cpYIQZtMlNE https://youtu.be/2XhNT9YaEsc |
O-10, I expected a contentious rebuttal to my comments from you; or, at least, one with an "edge". I will not get into another pointless and unpleasant dispute about a player that you obviously have a personal affinity for and, as a result, cannot deal with anything other than glowing commentary. You missed the thrust of my comments which have everything to do with Blue Note and the comments by Rok about the business interests of record labels and how they make decisions on what to release and when. The obvious rebuttal to your comment "that record has absolutely nothing to do with BN" is: then why did you, after talking about that record and quoting it's liner notes, go on a rant about BN? Once again, I wished that instead of knee jerk reactions there would be discussion about the SUBSTANCE of comments. Bottom line for me is stated very well by the very liner notes you quote, no conspiracy theory and no "getting screwed" by a record label: ****(Grant Green was) Overshadowed by such virtuosos as, first, Wes Montgomery, and later George Benson, **** End of story. |
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