Best Ways to Organize a Classical Record LP Collection ?


Need advice and recommendations from AudioGon Classical LP Aficionados.

I recently acquired a large 30+ box Classical LP collection.
Feeling a little overwhelmed. :^( 
Organizing Classical music is different from other genres.

Do you organize by Composer, their Work, the Performer, the Label, other .... ?

Can you please share your experiences, ideas, the pros and cons you found with each method. 

I am hoping your information will help me to decide which method will work best for me. 

Thanks 

ct0517

Ha! I watched the documentary Anderson Cooper did on his Mother, Gloria Vanderbilt. Her second husband was conductor Leopold Stokowski, and there were some pics of him on stage, hair flying all over the place. I think that look was very common amongst conductors in the first half of the 20th Century, and may be where the term came from.

Paul Parsons, what makes sense in having Bach, Beethoven, Brahms, and Bruckner next to each other on a shelf is the same as for having Count Basie in between The Band and The Beach Boys---I know where to find what it is I find myself wanting to listen to. My shelves are for storing, not for chronicling the progression of musical styles through history. I find myself wanting to hear a particular composer or composition, not a period in time or genre in general. To each his own!

oh oh ...I am getting a funny feeling about this......
The thread appears to be taking on, dare I say it.....audiophile attributes.
But with opinions that show real logic behind them. You guys are making this difficult.

The smell of vinyl has permeated that side of the house's main floor. I think its causing some hallucinations. Maybe its because I'm allergic to mold.

I think, deep down, my subconscious is making me want to make up for being a bad music theory student. Make my past teachers proud. So I printed this off

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d4/c8/9e/d4c89ead18950e7594d30e2f0ed3edda.jpg

and stuck it on the large bookcase just installed.
It made me feel ....good.
Definitely not as extensive as Paul Parsons list. This one at least gives a glimmer of hope. Small steps.....

But those B's really make it easy to start doing this alphabetically, don't they. And I have to admit. Those previously mentioned Deutsche Grammophon lps; those shiny yellow gleaming (though thin) lps, pulled earlier, now are temporarily together and taking up two slots in the bookcase; they look kinda cool with the sun hitting them. 
How ........tube like....... how audiophile !

Sundays Surprise Find.

The Sound of Jazz - 1958 Columbia Six Eye.

http://www.popculturesignatures.com/bihocobaauts.html

No not mine. My copy is in much better shape; but it is not signed by Billie Holiday and Count Basie :^(

Mono cartridge, well lack thereof, rears its head again. So how many records does it take to warrant getting one?    
need more coffee.
CT- right. I think you have to ask what your purpose in organizing is. Is it so you, as the present owner of these records, can find them easily? Or are you interested in working at the Library of Congress? I get curation, and Paul is no doubt correct insofar as musical history is concerned, but it would seem you’ll be spending more time curating than listening. I reorganized about 12k records a while ago, while getting rid of several thousand and eventually adding quite a few more. With classical, which is only part of the mix, I segregated some by label- EMI ASD, Lyrita, Decca/London, RCA doggie and Mercury Living Presence; I then alphabetized a large quantity (by composer)- say 20 linear feet; I also set aside one shelf for typical audiophile warhorses, and another for what I consider to be banal audiophile crap, which includes some direct to disc, not limited to classical. This, obviously, has nothing to do with the rock/pop or blues/jazz/folk (which are organized alphabetically, except where some have been segregated by label). That still leaves me with thousands of records that have yet to be organized in any meaningful way, from old MHS and DG to mid-’80s Euro-pop. It’s sort of triage, in my view.
I organized the stuff I was most interested in listening to, or was readily identifiable and it’s still taken years. Electronically cataloging with meta-data- a whole other thing. I like the fact that something like Discogs is basically already ’populated’ with the data (right or wrong), so you merely have to add the item to your collection, but are there similar "populated" databases that comprehensively address classical music? (I think of Discogs more for pop). Creating a database, with deep metadata from scratch, would be a huge endeavor.

PS: Paul- welcome to the madhouse! 
Hi Whart - thanks for your thought provoking post.

"as the present owner of these records"

a profound thought....indeed these records will out live me. Does everyone have a plan for their records ?

Some answers to your questions and where I am at. And oops long post - got away on me ..sorry. Have made lots of progress. This thread has really helped to make me put in focus those things I need to be aware of in how these records were produced, since classical is so different than that of other genres. This has saved me time. And time is the most important thing. Also the good weather is here, and what is in the garage is calling me too.

Whart - Is it so you, as the present owner of these records, can find them easily?

YES


Whart - Or are you interested in working at the Library of Congress?


:^) ...lol.... Congress ? As a Canadian if I hadn’t watched Netflix’s House of Cards over the winter (talk about addiction) I would be a little confused by this.

I was actually thinking about this "Library" the other day.
Never worked in a library before but, I think I now know what it must have felt like to deal with returned books !
I have found Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Mozart and Bach to name a few - in probably 15 + different boxes each. This is where I am at and what I have managed to do so far.

Pre-sorting.
First I had to get the records out of view. So I split up the boxes into two groups upstairs and downstairs. Shelving added to each floor up and down.
fwiw - After many years my wife banished me to our basement which for good audio plays out really well, so I don’t mind.
I have two music rooms set up adjacent to one another downstairs - can be seen in my virtual page. The main room always had shelving. I added shelving to room 2. That makes three with the shelving upstairs.

Whart
I get curation, and Paul is no doubt correct insofar as musical history is concerned, but it would seem you’ll be spending more time curating than listening. I reorganized about 12k records a while ago, while getting rid of several thousand and eventually adding quite a few more. With classical, which is only part of the mix, I segregated some by label- EMI ASD, Lyrita, Decca/London, RCA doggie and Mercury Living Presence;

I then alphabetized a large quantity (by composer)- say 20 linear feet; I also set aside one shelf for typical audiophile warhorses, and another for what I consider to be banal audiophile crap, which includes some direct to disc, not limited to classical.

Good info. I really like this word curation.
So the first sort had to be alphabetical in order to bring the composers together in two locations. This excludes special labels which have just found their way together. They look nice together. I do still like the idea of sorting by history / birth dates, later if I choose, if I ever get there.

The collection itself.
There is some organization for off genre non-classical that I found, but for the classical - No such luck, all over the place. The two sets of boxes upstairs/downstairs have mostly been sorted and filed into the two locations. This part is complete. Now the next sort should bring the Composers from two locations together into one.

I am aware and coming across, the album types that people have mentioned here that I needed to deal with. This was really helpful as it made me look out for them and not get frustrated. Like records with one Conductor and multiple composers; and Artists (i.e .piano player Perahia / Lupu ) with one & multiple composers on a record.

Some specialty categories I have found together include Organ related albums, Flamenco, Classical Guitar, Scott Joplin/Ragtime, Big Band,
There are enough of these lps - a box each, that I can now say I collect them. lol.
A large opera grouping more than I will ever need. fwiw I am located near Toronto where I was born. The city’s Little Italy is world famous. If I choose to unload some opera later there is a big web demand for it here from those that grew up with this music playing in the house.

I think the fellow coordinating the records for the elderly owner grabbed the Jazz as I have only come across a few. :^(
The great part is as I continue to plow through, I pull 6 or 7 interesting looking lps each day, and listen to them at end of day, many unknown labels from USSR - Russian, Czechoslovakian, etc...
With all the records, googling the label plus some album info brings up discogs or ebay. I copy and paste the info into an excel spreadsheet to which I color code the title to tell me how I liked the performance, quality condition of the vinyl, and the mastering job (does the music explode out from the grooves).
The good records / performances are coded green and are filed in the first bookcase in the main listening room so I can find them. The others are filed right now alphabetically in the other bookcase downstairs. Doing the spreadsheet is important as it is helping me learn the music. Composer, Work, Conductor, City orchestra, etc...

Have a full box of this music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMAtL7n_-rc

I like....

Also found a few Janis Joplin lps. Being born in the 60’s, I know of her and the music - meaning I know to hear it on the radio; but never actually bought any albums myself. So I did some digging.

http://static.robbreport.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/2015Sep/1681506//janis-joplin-porsc...

I like....
This Columbia High Fidelity recording is scientifically designed to play with the high quality of reproduction on the phonograph of your choice, new or old.
If you are the owner of a new stereophonic system, this record will play even more brilliant true to life fidelity. In short you can purchase this record with no fear of its becoming obsolete in the future.

How cool is that ?
Library of Congress number R59 - 1499 applies to this record.
Label number ML 5443.