Hype, Hyperbole and high price!


Okay, I understand that this site has to make money by having advertisers, but cheese and crackers, the claims that are made are just laughable if not down right criminal!  Before I attended an engineering university I too was duped into buying expensive wires and such.  Now, armed with an engineering and physics background, I can see through the BS claims made.  I try and not let it get in the way of my enjoyment of good quality stereo equipment, but when a salesman tries to sell me something based on testimonials, hype and hyperbole, I tell him politely my background and then ask him a series of questions which leaves him dumbfounded. 

Such crap as directional wires - (I used to work for both Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman) and trust me, if we had to test the miles of wires for directionality in every piece of equipment built...well you get the gist.

I have friends that are audio snobs and although they argue with me (Basically buyer's remorse) they know that what I say is true and end the conversation.  Oh well, I suppose I will continue to get a headache when I read said claims.

Sigh!
kenny928
People will spend money on what they want to spend it on, and if they choose not to spend it on audiophile equipment so be it.  

I really like to listen to music so over time I have repeatedly changed out equipment to try to improve my listening experience and will likely continue to do so to whatever limit I choose.  By the same token, I am satisifed with having a 5 year old LCD TV and dvd player; I could switch them out to the latest curved screen tv and blu-ray player, but getting that "extra' from video isn't important to me. Freeedom of choice for me; as it is for how others spend their hard earned cash. 
Their is no such thing as sound in a audio cable, it's just voltage,.
Voltage makes everything happen, how it is manipulated from the source to the speaker is what determines sound.
The final product in the line that determines great sound is the speaker, crossover and cabinet itself, after that it's up to the room and your ears.
You can argue the point until the cows come home and will always come back to your opinion is the right answer and everyone else is wrong that just can't see it your way.
I would think the only thing that matters in a audio cable, is to have one that has as little resistance as possible, and a good tight electrical connection on both ends.
Add in cable length only as long , straight and of the proper gage for the length of run to the speaker as necessary.
Just my two cents, you sound like you are on the money Kenny.

Ah, the tempest in the teacup rages on...
I'd pay to watch a competitive cable flogging match.  It'd be interesting to see which cable outlasted the others.  Akin to seeing a golf tournament played with slingshots and pool cues...by the pros...just for 'comparison's sake'...
Yes, I am jerking y'all's leashes...just because I like to watch the fur start to fly.  The whole 'cable issue', regardless of application of same, is gone way out of proportion IMHO.  It really starts to take on the vague status of 'male member proportions' and the importance of That.  Really?!
*Sigh*  "My cable's better than yours Because...."  Fine.  Buy what you feel you need for whatever you feel you can afford to pay for it for whatever you think it does for you.
A Lamborghini or an old VW 'bug' accomplish the same thing at the end of the day.  The owner of either will have rationalizations as to why each is 'necessary'.
And I'll go find some other forum to be a pest. *G*

Hey, Kenny!  Check this out....http://rynomotors.com/
People seem to smile more at this than an HD...just saying...;)
Danvignau wrote,

"Let’s us also not forget that the reason we have such great tubes/valves-for-the-aficionado, is that the USSR was so far behind us in electronics that they perfected their tubes for use in MIG radar. That is why tubes come from Russia and China.

TRIVIA: When turning and firing their cannons, MIG pilots had to compensate for the gravitational forces on the stretching elements in the tube radar."

For voice communication tubes are the cat’s meow. It actually wasn’t until the late ’80s that the pilot to controller radios in all the FAA centers were converted over from tube electronics to solid state since there was an availability issue. Unfortunately the advantages of Russian amd Chinese tubes don’t actually crossover to high end tube electronics you know do to the superiority of American and British NOS tubes. I will give the Russians props for using tubes in fighter aircraft, which employed tubes for the communication section, too, all the way up to the Mig-31, as tubes are certainly superior to solid state when it comes to withstanding high over pressures results from nuclear explosions.
I hooked up my rca cables with the arrows pointing towards the CD player and the music played backwards. Pushed the phase button on my pre-amp and fixed the problem.