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What is best turntable for listening to Rock from the sixties like Led Zeppelin?
The sound quality isn’t great, so rather than something super revealing, something that is very musical, and can also convey the magic. Sort of the Decca cartridge equivalent of turntables. I am guessing less Caliburn and Techdas, more Linn, Roksan, Denon, EMT 927, Rega, even.
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m-db: Did someone say all ’60s rock sounds bad on vinyl? I hope not, since some of the stuff I treasure most came from that era-both musically and sonically. I will agree that the Zep stuff isn’t very well recorded, though, much as I loved the early records (and listen to a few tracks on their later ones). N.B. I guess you could read the OP's thread title and OP that way- I read it differently, not as a blanket indictment. |
I am not a musician or audio expert. I have listened to Zep II on several different decks over the years. First cheap thrift store record players from the 70s, 80s direct drive, then an early project table, then a scout and currently a VPI prime. I actually enjoyed the music on all these TT. I don’t agree that this record does not have good resolution. I would say everything in general on Zep II has gotten better with the nicer record players. While it’s not some audiophile recording and some of the swirling of guitars sounds contrived in general I don’t think its a bad recording. I personnel would not try to tailor a record player to one genre of music. Get the best record player, phono state, and cart you can afford and enjoy. I don’t think better resolution, soundstage, image and better dynamics is going to make any 60s- 70s music sound worst. Many people will tell you it can revel flaws in the recording. While I think this is true its more honest and still sounds better to me than having a very thick veil closed in presentation which hides much that is in the grooves. I would say this is a much bigger problem then truly hearing whats on the record. That being said you don’t have to spend a fortune to have fun listening to music I can listen to this era of music on my car radio and enjoy it. IMO |
inna1,906 posts03-24-2016 6:34pmAtma-Sphere is wrong, once again. But if he wants to convince some of us he should try and prove what he says. I agree with Ralph. Turntable or ANY kind of home audio playback equipment should not depend on style of music. The musical instruments however are different. Martin guitar isn't definitely for heavy metal simply because heavy metal bands don't use acoustic guitars at all. Also you will less-likely see Stradivarius violin used in folk or rock bands either. At the same time there's nothing wrong in playing Bach on Technics SL1200 turntable via some vintage receiver and vintage Advent or Celestion speakers. Any system that can reproduce solo piano played clear is able to play any sophisticated and loud rock or metal. |
"Should" not depend on style of music is right, theoretically. But in practice, since all turntables have failings in different ways, ways that are related to certain aspects of music and/or sound, it may be advisable to find a table that least harms music in ways most important to oneself or to the music one most listens to. For instance, just as an intellectual exercise: organ music is better served by a table great at reproducing low frequencies than one weak in that regard, whereas music without a lot of deep bass but with long-held piano noted needs a table with the lowest wow & flutter, a failing less harmful to the organ music with no long-held notes. The table that provides great bass could be weak in regards to wow & flutter, making it fine for the organ lover, not so good for the piano lover. Of course we all want a table with no musical or sonic failings; how many of us has one? But, really, how many of us has the luxury of any such choice? The cartridge is normally the first part the LP player chosen, for the same reason the loudspeaker is at the other end: it's a transducer, far more variable in sound characteristics than the other parts (uh, right?). Who picks his arm first, then his cartridge? Or his amp first, then for a speaker it works well with? A knucklehead. Cartridge chosen, an arm appropriate for the cartridge is next. Then, lastly, the table. Owners of Oracle Delphi's learned why that table was not the best choice for the ET air-bearing arm: the mass of the arm tube was too great for the table's suspension, changing the level of the table as it moved across the LP. The VPI HW-19, on the other hand, was a good match for the arm. |
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