Jeff Rowlands Amp and Dac vs. VAC amp and DAC


Hello, I am new to this forum but I have a question. I am trying to pair an amp + DAC with my Wilson Sabrinas. I have listened to Jeff Rowlands integrated with the Aeris DAC. And the VAC Sigma integrated with the Aeris DAC. Price is a factor and so is space. Does the 625 need a pre-amp? Any suggestions or thoughts? 
rinpoche
Rinpoche 5-24-2016 5:18pm EDT
The tap discussion is way above my head but I am writing it down and when I go to the shop to hear the VAC 200 iq system I will ask about it. If the VAC 200 iq is one of the winners, and I get to bring it home to try with the Wilson’s -- I will report back on the combo for sure. But, if I hear you both correctly, the 8 tap is possibly the one to try first? Then the 4?
Absolutely not, in my opinion. And my apologies for wording my previous post more technically than I should have.

I don’t doubt that the 8 ohm tap may very well be the best tap to use with the Sabrina when it is driven by a Macintosh MC-275 tube amp or by most Audio Research tube amps, as was stated by an exceptionally credible and knowledgeable source (Peter McGrath). However my basic point was that the MC-275 (and other McIntosh tube amps), as well as most ARC tube amps, are COMPLETELY different animals than both VAC amps and the majority of other high quality tube amps, especially in regard to major differences in their output impedances. Which in turn are especially relevant to tap selection. Differences in amplifier output impedance mean differences in the tonal effects that result from the interaction of amplifier output impedance with the variations of speaker impedance over the frequency range.

Given all that has been said, I agree with the others that all taps on the 200iq should be tried, but my guess is that the 1 to 2 ohm tap has the best chance of being optimal, the 2 to 4 ohm tap has the next best chance of being optimal, and the 4 to 8 ohm tap has the least chance of being optimal. Among those three taps on the 200iq, by the way, the 1 to 2 ohm tap will come closest to the behavior of a solid state amp (such as the Rowland) insofar as the tonal effects of the interaction of its output impedance with the impedance characteristics of the speaker are concerned. Although of course there will still be differences between the Rowland and the VAC, resulting from both impedance interactions and the intrinsic sonic characters of the two amps.

On the two higher impedance taps of the VAC, look particularly for signs of excessive brightness, and/or for weakness in certain parts of the lower bass region, and/or for poorly defined bass.

Best of luck, and best regards,
-- Al

Do you think I should try the ARC reference 150 with the Aeris? Or the Air Tight tube amp? Or am I going in too many directions?
ARC, Mac and Airtight will all work with Sabrinas and they will all sound completely different. The Mac--warm, rounded, rich but slightly veiled in comparison to ARC which will be more transparent, open and expansive, but not strident. I have owned both with Wilsons and these are my conclusions. Airtight is an excellent company whose amps I have enjoyed listening to but never with Wilsons. Good luck.
Based on what Al has written it seems that the ARC  tube amplifiers may utilize a larger degree of negative feedback  (NFB) than the VAC amplifiers.  I say this due to the lower output impedance  (higher damping factor ) of the ARCs. Depending on the particular speakers this can be advantageous.  It truly is dependent on the speaker design and intent of the builder. The Sabrinas could require amplifiers with more NFB with the resultant lower output impedance. Again,  nothing substitutes for actual listening experiences. 
Charles,