is a center channel really necessary??


I am currently redesigning the family room and have the option of installing a 5.1 system but have always been a 2 channel kinda guy. I love films and music equally, but assuming a fixed budget, may $4K, I know I could get a killer 2 channel setup but just a mediocre HT. MOst films I like aren't effects type, but I am concerned about hearing dialog clearly.

How much does the center channel matter?? Won't a set of good monitors image well enough to handle the dialog??
tswei99
Personally, I've become less and less interested in 5.1, which (esp. for music) inevitably sounds processed and unnatural to me. i still have a surround setup in my living room, but find i do almost all my movie watching/music listening on a secondary 2ch system. perhaps if i watched alot of action movie i'd crave the sensation of explosions behind me, but i've never felt i'm missing dialogue or anything essential.
ergo, i vote with the folk who recommend getting the best two channel setup you can afford now (full range speakers and 2ch integrated); conceivably you can add more gear in the future if you feel you need it, but at the very least you'll have a great base to build upon.
Stage 1 option - HT bypass integrated. Do these work??

One option I was thinking of was to wire the walls for surrounds and leave them unused for now and go with something like a Peachtree Nova (I am a Sonos user) with a pair of speakers from a big mfg (like Paradigm/B&W) so that it would be easy to find a matching center down the road if needed.

So Stage II, if needed later, would be add:
1. AVR
2. 2 in-ceiling surrounds
3. matching center

I've always wondered how well home theater bypass works as you are using the amp of the integrated with a very different amp in the AVR.

The advantage of this approach also is that I could just get a cheaper AVR as it's only going to drive the center and surrounds.

PS I actually demo'd the Peachtree Nova and a set of Paradigm STudio 10s w/out sub and was pretty impressed. Nothing mind blowing, but for a package just over $2K it was awesome.
In general I would say yes, unless you plan on sitting exactly centered between the front speakers. The center channel helps a lot with centering the dialog onto the screen if you are sitting off to the side.

Now having said that it has been my experience that the center speaker always sounds a little different from the mains and going with only two front speakers results in a more seamless sound when the sound pans across the screen. That is with inexpensive equipment - high $ stuff may be better.

Mark
In a multi-channel setup, yes it's an intregal part of it all. I direct you and any other here to go to Home Theatre's, Scott Wilkenson's Home Theatre Geeks podcasts. Two episodes ago he interviewed Dr. Floyd Toole. Any audiophile or hifi fan should know who Dr. Floyd Toole is. That podcast dealt mostly with dealing with sub woofer bass and location but Dr. Toole denoted his preference for multi-channel sound over traditional stereo sound. As a result the centre channel is very important.

That said I am a fan of stereo for music made in the stereo realm. I find most of the multi-channel algorithms turning stereo onto multi-channel sound are not quite as appealing as one could hope for. But that said THX Music cinema can sound pretty good. However having an Oppo BDP-83 and the supplied AIX Records Blu-ray sampler disc. I find professionally mixed hi rez multi-channel audio of the likes AIX Records does is VERY IMPACTFUL AND SUPERBLY CREDIBLE!
If you didn't care before, you're likely not going to be miserable without one now. Still, a center anchors the sound to the centered immage, especially for off-axis listening positions.
At very least, you'll still need latest processing for best sound. Video scaling and switching is also a big plus, room EQ's in the latest pre's are stellar improvements, sonically, etc.
If it were me, I'd be at least adding the above, plus subwoofer. Otherwise, I'd keep a two channel setup like before, and put small quality satalites around the room, and hide a woofer somewhere - and add all the above. Otherwise, inwalls all around, and a quality center speaker for the center, plus all of the above - including 2 channel setup.
To simplify, however, yeah, option one.