What makes an expensive speaker expensive


When one plunks down $10,000 $50,000 and more for a speaker you’re paying for awesome sound, perhaps an elegant or outlandish style, some prestige ... but what makes the price what it is?

Are the materials in a $95,000 set of speakers really that expensive? Or are you paying a designer who has determined he can make more by selling a few at a really high price as compared to a lot at a low price?

And at what point do you stop using price as a gauge to the quality? Would you be surprised to see $30,000 speakers "outperform" $150,000 speakers?

Too much time on my hands today I guess.
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Hi analoguvr,
Despite having the privilege to hear speakers that utilize various types of "exotic" materials for their drivers, paper implemented properly is still preferable to many listeners. High quality paper cones sound exceptionally natural. Personally I’d choose this option compared to an ultra detailed analytical sound. Paper cones and tubes for example never measure as good as their alternatives but they sure sound very much natural and realistic when done correctly. There are non paper driver speakers that sound very well without question, I just do not find them superior to top quality paper drivers.  Of course YMMV as is always the case. 
Charles,
I have had this discussion recently with a lot of my audio friends.  I asked them about paper cones and the cost of speakers that use them.  It's funny, but to a person, they feel that some of the top name companies who are still using paper in drivers that are not costly, are just charging a lot due to their name.  I brought up the fact that the cases can be expensive.  I'm personally on the side of not loving paper as I hear the distortion they have as they break up a ton.  I fully respect folks who love them, but they aren't for me.  I tried to take up the cause of the cost of a specific brand that utilize soft domes and paper drivers.  Even a couple of dealers I'm friends with have joked about the true cost of the drivers in the 50k plus speakers.  The bottom line is that there is a market for speakers that are costly or the companies would probably just go under and thats not happening in most cases.  We all like different sounds and there are plenty of companies who give us all what we want.  
Hi Ctsooner,
We can definitely agree that listening impressions are simply subjective and personal.  In this case Analoguvr posted comments that I could truly relate to. Coincidentally he and I also prefer   SET amplifiers so we certainly hear in a similar manner it seems. We're all fortunate that the High End audio market has products to suit a multitude of tastes. 
Charles, 
Charles, I too love SET's, but only from the lower mids on up.  That's why I fell in love with Vandersteen's new amp on the 7's.  I've heard plenty of great reference amps on that speaker, but his just blows me away.  He too loves the sound of the SET amps in the mids.  Just so real and palpable to many of our ears, but the bass isn't quite impactful, so doing a hybrid made sense. I know he'll have a smaller amp eventually if he follows his normal business practice and I'll have to give it a whirl, that's for sure.  SET's can make speakers that normally fry my ears, listenable.  Some folks don't get it though and again I appreciate that POV. lol.
What are the prices of vandersteen replacement drivers? Who makes them? You say paper cones have a lot of breakup? Can you please give example of driver and speaker model? I do not regularly see it as a direct problem for end user. I also looked up Sabrina 3 as possible example, but did not see real evidence of that on stereophile’s "spectral delay" plot. May be I do not know what you mean. I would bet the damping characteristics between particular carbon fiber and paper driver models vary and possible overlap much as their costs.

You may be interested in Reference 3a driver implementation if you have not heard of them already. They have carbon fiber driver "hyper-exponentially shaped to avoid cone break up modes". Its run full range.