Will an Isolation Transformer Help My Digital?


I am experiencing noise from my digital components into my system. It presents as high frequency interference thru the speakers once the components are warmed up. This interference is being sent back to the mains and can be heard when music is being played or idle.

I’m using an ARC CD3 mk II CDP, Chord DAC, and a NAD CD player. I have a 20 amp dedicated line with Blue Circle power conditioning at the wall.
A Furman power strip for the low-current analogue components is plugged into the PC. Also feeding from the PC is a Tripp-Lite Isobar with isolated filter banks for the digital. The toroidal chokes in this Tripp-Lite power strip are not able to filter the digital noise.
My amp plugs into the wall duplex outlet.

I posted a thread earlier where it was mentioned than an isolation transformer used exclusively for the digital components might resolve the noise/interference problem.
I read in the archives about the use of a Tripp Lite IS250HG Isolation Transformer to isolate the CDP/DAC.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000ET7Q6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_img?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29XG41GAZ363K...

So, I’m asking if this would be a solution, since I don’t plan on running another dedicated line. (too many reasons to list).
128x128lowrider57
Hi Lowrider,

I read through the prior thread that I think you are referring to, to refresh my memory. Given that the noise was considerably less when you used the CDP’s stock power cord instead of the upgraded power cords you tried (the upgraded cords presumably having greater bandwidth than the stock cord, and therefore providing less attenuation of high frequency noise over a significant part of the spectrum), and given that the noise was eliminated when you plugged the CDP into different and more distant outlets, my guess is that the isolation transformer stands a reasonably good chance of resolving the problem. Obviously, though, I can’t say that with certainty, in part because its specs provide no indication of what frequencies its "35-65 db noise suppression" apply to. So that spec is pretty much meaningless.

Also, what was the upshot when the Sunfire tech looked at your amp, with regard to the fact that its chassis was inexplicably not connected to its safety ground?

Best regards,
-- Al

@bombaywalla ,
Yes, there is a ground-loop due to the design of the Sunfire amp. I recently had the amp refreshed by Sunfire service and was in touch with Bob Carver who confirmed that the safety ground and the signal ground are tied together and do not meet at the chassis.
you've had your system for a while & this seems to be a very recent thing.
So, what has changed in your system that created this interference?
I started having this interference and hearing the high freq noise in January when I installed a new Atma-Sphere SE preamp (which is star-grounded). Amp into wall, Preamp & CDP into same Blue Circle and Furman.
Let me add that I only had the ARC CDP in the system up until then.
Almarg diagnosed a ground-loop before that due to the harshness of the CDP. I had a Rogue amp and did not experience any 60Hz hum.

I will provide the old link, but be warned, it is very long and goes on and on with tests I performed.

Also, the Tripp-Lite Isobar is brand new. It was an attempt to use isolated AC receptacles.
Getting back to the current ground-loop, I have removed the Blue Circle and used only the Furman pwr strip. AND, all components are currently using cheater-plugs.

The Chord Dac is new and is using a Switched-mode wall-wart as a power supply. Not the cleanest way to provide power.

The old link...(jea48 and Almarg provided much time and insight)
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/isolating-digital-noise-need-help?page=2

I'll leave with an explanation of Bob Carver's grounding design;
In the late 90s, the Sunfire 300 amp was mated with a stackable valve pre/pro. The amp used RCA and XLR (unbalanced) and fed it's AC into the pre/pro which was fully grounded to it's chassis. This was the ground potential for the rest of the audio system.
Hi Al.
See my explanation of the grounding theory. These early units were sold as a set.

And you’re correct that the noise was eliminated when CDP was plugged into different and more distant outlets.
Given that the noise was considerably less when you used the CDP’s stock power cord instead of the upgraded power cords you tried (the upgraded cords presumably having greater bandwidth than the stock cord, and therefore providing less attenuation of high frequency noise over a significant part of the spectrum)
Once again, correct. But, the noise was not eliminated. And now that I’m using a SMPS wall-wart for the DAC, the noise is considerably louder than a dedicated CDP. I intend to upgrade to a linear power supply.
@lak,
Always appreciate your participation. I found a thread where you speak to using an isolation transformer for the entire audio system, as you have done in your own house.
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/isolation-transformer-2?highlight=isolation%2Btransformer%2Bc...

Do you have any thoughts on using a iso transformer on the front-end of my system if indeed digital noise is being introduced?

Lowrider, I'll bet the wall-wart is a switching power supply. If so, it may be feeding noise back into your wall. Why not try an old laboratory power supply capable of the same voltage, instead of the wall-wart? "Old" being the operative word, before switchers became the order of the day.

Just a wild guess.