Equipment Rack


Does it make sense to spend several thousands of dollars on a equipment rack, if Stillpoints are used under every component?
ricred1
Geoff,

Let me get to our 'Point...

The opinions of the engineers who have worked on this study throughout our history stated all along that the geometry governing the tip of the Audio Point rejected low frequency from the floor surface. Our newest  associate in science flew in for a meeting to fully see what we were doing as she found our design for the mechanical grounding of musical instruments on the web and thought the two of us might be sharing on an infringement with regards to each other’s patents and methods.

She brought her product with her in order to make comparisons. Interesting in that our products were two totally different concepts but arrived at near the same listening result. She noticed the Star Sound Sistrum Platforms, Audio Points and the new Platter Ground and commented on their geometry and the fact that the tip was shaped at angles that would reject low frequency attempting to pass up through the point tip. I asked her how she knew this? She said it was common knowledge in her field of seismic science that this shape was a mechanical diode.

Rather than commit additional time is searching what was known to be common knowledge in seismology which is not our number one topic of research or understanding, we decided as a group to compare more information. Shortly thereafter all the members from each company chose to combine efforts and share in the acquiring of additional Patents based on each technical approach to vibration management..

As for the handling of vibration and in your words “your low tech approaches” in dealing with vibration across all the various and numerous parts of the electronic component, we find them to be anisotropic (physics of unequal physical properties along different axes) in design and nature.

Since we are of the isotropic group (having physical properties that do not vary with direction) the limited two materials used in our designs provide higher speeds at which all energy being  transferred allows for greater management over time, speed and decay. These three physical effects provide the difference you hear in the performance and sound quality of our technology compared to all the rest.

Tom,
Star Sound Technologies


Theaudiotweak wrote,

"As for the handling of vibration and in your words “your low tech approaches” in dealing with vibration across all the various and numerous parts of the electronic component, we find them to be anisotropic (physics of unequal physical properties along different axes) in design and nature."

Actually those were not my words. What I actually said was relatively low tech methods (like damping) can be used to deal with vibration on the top plate of the mechanical filter and in the component. As for your answer to my question regarding how your product deals with seismic type vibration it appears to be some sort of mumbo jumbo. To whit,

"Since we are of the isotropic group (having physical properties that do not vary with direction) the limited two materials used in our designs provide higher speeds at which all energy being transferred allows for greater management over time, speed and decay. These three physical effects provide the difference you hear in the performance and sound quality of our technology compared to all the rest."

cheers,

geoff kait

ricred -- Townshend products are distributed in the US by EAR-USA. Although the EAR-USA site does not have much information Dan can get any of the products. Townshend have products at a range of prices, the seismic podiums are actually among the most expensive -- price varies by size but mine made for 300lb Q3s were about $2500.

This UK based dealer has the full range and the prices when quoted in $ without tax (i.e. exc VAT) should be similar to the US list prices -- you can order direct if you want (which is actually how I got mine)

Here we go again Mr. Geoff Kait,

If you personally do not grasp or comprehend information provided by anyone who contributes to the education and advancement of audio, what…? Is it now classified as mumbo jumbo?

You obviously missed Tom’s answer to your question which included - “the fact that the tip was shaped at angles that would reject low frequency attempting to pass up through the point tip. I asked her how she knew this? She said it was common knowledge in her field of seismic science that this shape was a mechanical diode.”

By picking out a small portion of his “total and complete” response to your question and classifying said small portion as mumbo jumbo just goes to prove time and again how much of an obstructionist you actually are on this forum, my personal opinion of course.

Were you able to self research or speak with anyone of authority whose education is specific to seismology to confirm Tom's complete response?  

AND before you begin to take aim at our newest team member who supplied a brief reply for your question, please note that she is a Registered Professional Engineer (PE)  and a Registered Geologist (PG) . For over 30 years she has interpreted seismic data for many different industries. She has authored and presented 14 papers on different aspects of interpretation and understanding compressional waves to the Society of Exploration Geophysicists (SEG) International and she has also worked as a Geotechnical Engineer in the housing industry.

AND since we already discovered that personal credentials other than your own are meaningless to you and In order to provide the proof you continuously demand… that of which can “never” be completely explained in print because of your ongoing tactics to create even more ambiguous arguments before any question is completely answered..., including those technologies that are totally above your ability to comprehend, we would like to invite you in and listen to an Energy Room™.

Dr. Andrew Gear, (Agear) a long time member here on AudioGon would enjoy having you over for an audition. At the very least this listening session would provide the physical proof from personal experience that not only are the Sistrum Platforms™ “not” affected by very low frequencies but the room construction, walls flooring and ceilings on the whole are also “not” affected - and all this performance without the existence of any acoustic panels, traps, etc.. The Energy Room is the first audio product of its kind and directly relates to the function of the platform and technology. You will hear a musical presentation unlike anything you have ever experienced in your past - of this we are extremely confident. Up for a visit or wait for the reviews?

Furthermore, historically you have yet to provide us any answers and/or proof whatsoever to our questions about your products. In fact the only answers we have ever received state you are not willing to answer “straw man arguments” yet you continue to demand the same from others so...

Can we book your flight?

Yours truly and “to whit”,

Robert Maicks

Star Sound

PS: If you really want to learn something new in audio take us up on the invitation to visit an Energy Room. Star Sound will cover the plane ticket and travel expenses.



I would love to use footers to help isolate more of my components from the effects of outside low frquency noise but am not convinced by this concept of a certain shape being a "mechanical diode"at the frequencies in question and given the vagaries of different loads on the footer

Could you provide a link to a reference for those of us not deep into seismic science? I tried searching but could not come up with anything.

Would be great to have an alternative to the spring based solutions I am currently using