Synergistic Red Fuse ...

OP,

OP,

I am still trying to truly understand the magnitude of improvement people are hearing with Red and Black fuses.

On a scale of 1-100, what would you rate the magnitude of change heard with the SR fuse versus the speaker/floor isolation tweak?

For me, the isolation improvement was much greater than anything I heard with the Red fuse.    The Subdudes and Isoacoustics stands each made huge differences in sound that surely anyone could hear.  But only on my second level.  Not much difference if used at foundation level on solid concrete floor (with thin dense carpet and padding).

Honestly, if the Red fuse made a difference is was hard for me to identify at all with any certainty.   So much less effective than isolation when needed.

The difference in results of isolation of my same speakers on two totally different levels of my home acoustically show how even potentially real and effective tweaks  will vary in results depending.

Bottom line is there has to be a real problem to solve first and then an effective solution to address it.

So while I do not think all fuses are created equal, I also believe that the problem fuses address has been solved effectively by many commercial fuse products over the years and for very low cost.

So are the expensive fuses a solution looking for a problem or not?   Obviously opinions will vary on this.

Mapman wrote,

"So while I do not think all fuses are created equal, I also believe that the problem fuses address has been solved effectively by many commercial fuse products over the years and for very low cost."

Nice try, but the commercial fuse companies have not even caught up to wire directionality thing. Nor will they. There is not a single problem fuses address, either. Haven't you been paying attention, grasshopper? What else, you ask? Aftermarket fuses, for the most part, while they all appear to have their own innovations and or implementations, and rightfully so, since no one has a monopoly on fuse technology, employ better alloys or purer pure metals for the wire itself and for the end caps. They employ an anti resonant body or some other anti resonant function (e.g., beeswax). They employ EMI/RFI absorption techniques, e.g. Graphene and whatever Audio Magic uses in their nano fuses like Beeswax, etc. AND the manufacturers understand wire directionality and usually provide ARROWS to assit the end user in determining correct fuse orientation. What’s not to like, grasshopper?

cheerios

Geoff repeating your same arguments over and over does not make them any more or less true.

Obviously you believe the problem has not been solved effectively. That’s fine. But I notice you tend to fear problems are more severe than most. The old making mountains out of molehills thing. Its not healthy. Take a chill pill grasshopper. Things really ain’t so bad. Maybe consider dumping your fuse less Sony Walkman and trying "a real system". With fuses even. Then you can actually you know do something to learn about what fuses sound like rather than just theorize.

You talk ab out aftermarket fuses. There are "aftermarket" fuses of good quality that cost just a few bucks. Are these good enough for some the uber systems in these parts? Don’t know. But little risk for anyone to try and then maybe even compare to those in the elite fuse club later. Then one would know if one cares. But clearly the more one already has invested in a hifi the less likely they will split hairs over a couple hundred bucks.

My new product, the Mapman "funky fuse" is still under development. The casing will be formed from a solid block of proprietary graphene infused alloy I’m building in the mapcave with very low overhead to maximize the profits I am smelling. It will be the best fuse ever and few will be able to afford it! Believe me! :^)

Mapman wrote,

"Obviously you believe the problem has not been solved effectively. That’s fine."

nope, one, never said it. What's obvious is there's been an evolution of fuses over the years. You know, since fancy expensive audiophile fuses first came out twenty years ago. 

Mapman also wrote,

"But I notice you tend to fear problems are more severe than most."

Maybe I'm more aware of problems than the average bear. I'll sign up to that. Not fear. 

Mapman also opined,

"Maybe consider dumping your fuse less Sony Walkman and trying "a real system". With fuses even."

No fuse. No power cord. No ground, no house AC. No interconnects. No speaker cables. No problem. 

Finally, Mapman said, I'm pretty sure in frustration,

"Then you can actually you know do something to learn about what fuses sound like rather than just theorize."

Huh? I'm the one who can hear, remember?