How high the rears?

Sorry John but Toni Grimmani and Lucas Sound disagree!

The rears should always be placed close to the ceiling and never at the ear level. Rears are supposed to be diffusive even in a direct radiating system. The idea of surround sound is to mimic what you hear in reality, as you move further and further away from a sound source you loose exact placement and instead hear the sound as emanating from a destination location. Most surround sound effects are trying to duplicate spacial cues to mimic the reverb times of large spaces to pull you into the movie, or to recreate pans from side to side or front to back.

If you can pin point where the sound is coming from you are defeating the concept. Direction not location is what we are aiming for. In fact most professional theater designer still prefer di-poles radiators for the side locations whenever possible.

I guess you learn something every day.

Chad,

I just measured the distance from our ears to the rear wall, and it's about 80".

db

Db,
I would still place ot high on wall but thats just me (well me audiofreakgeek) :)
Vocal and mains you want to hear it ofcourse anchored in its proper place relative to your ears as its intended to be directional and easy to hear the steering of the sound.
But surrounds are material driven in a way that it works best where its above and not near the ears........like life itself IMO. There are no "right" answers as rooms and personal taste often make the choice for you but there you have my take on it all,,,,,,,,,,,I just happen to be right lol.

Sheesh…. Get a couple ladders or something, and set ‘em up temp wise, and move em about to see for yourself. Your ears! Your room! Your family. Do it how you hear it and like it best!

If the majority of opinions here is that the rears in your house should be on the ceiling, two and a quarter ft off each side wall and fifteen and three quarters off the display…

Would you actually put them there?

So much of this what to get, and where to put it, business is common sense and compromise.

Unless you’re into a full on no holds barred, HT deal, budget, da wife, esthetics, and the hardware & room itself will indicate what can and can not be done…. Normally.

Thank goodness for the Multi Eq, Auto sound gizmos now incorporated into so many receivers and processors…. If one doesn’t care for fiddling with the setup personally.

For myself, I do like a more difuse rear sound stage, although the image itself directs sound effects too. I’m not too keen on seeing a fella point his gun in one direction and the bullet suddenly zip off into some other one. He’s pointing it down and it winds up ricocheting off something above my head and behind me. That’s just weird! And wrong.

It’s disconcerting too… like not having your channels aligned properly, and/or reversed! I would have to stop the film and redo the setup. I couldn’t watch it like that.

My main system is a 5.1 setup. My Rears are about a foot or so above my head (or less) and just a bit off the side walls. They’re also only a few feet (<5ft?) behind my listening position in a 14 x 20 x 8.3 closed in room. They face each other and are angled in towards my seat just slightly. Maybe 10 degrees. The display sets on the 14ft. wall.

Were I to add another speaker for 6.1 which I might do, I’d elevate it a few inches more above the height of the current pr of rear speakers and I’d aim for a difuse loud speaker at that position… and likely mount it to the rear wall. Placement otherwise would be problematic due to doors and entry ways…. (see above… ‘compromises’)

For fly overs in either direction, it’s very cool sounding. As they’re close to ear level the bullets and bombs seemingly land appropriately too… well, believeably so any way.

My rear sound stage has yet to cause me to lose the “suspend disbelief” syndrome we enact during film viewing due to how the speakers are currently located.

I previously kept rears right at ear level…. I prefer them slightly elevated.

And that’s the ticket for anyone anyhow…. What exactly do you like? Want? Get a couple step ladder, chairs, etc., and position the rears temporarily and play a movie!

Move ‘em around to see for yourself, what you like, and where they can reside permanently… what distance, height, etc.

Or just pick a spot and live with it!

It doesn’t matter what the prospectus is here…. It’s all about your likes… and dem’s the true choices you have now, pardner! Enjoy!