What's the deal with idler turntables and do they have a place in modern HiFi?

What about an idler drive with quartz control ?

If you like noise from rumble they are OK!

Do you want to live in the past?

Hi Gmjperry96,

Given your propensity to play and learn, I say go for it.  I think you'll learn as much about yourself as you will about idlers vs. belts.

I've been working on a new turntable for about 18 months.  It didn't start out as an idler, but the design constraints presented to this chassis layout led me down that path.

The Eiger is definitely a different flavor from our belt driven Gavias and Stelvios.  I'd expect an equal number of people to line up in favor of belts and idlers.  Different strokes and all that.

To don_c55, people were saying that vinyl is a thing of the past as well.  Belts are unquestionably quieter and you'll get a different presentation from a belt driven architecture.  As much as I've optimized my belt driven turntables (and people say that they're very idler like in their rhythmic presentation), the perception of rhythm with the Eiger is completely different.  People value different attributes, and no one is superior to the other.

Cheers,
Thom @ Galibier Design

Hello Thom,
I appreciate your intelligent and honest response. You are right regarding the different types of turntable drive approaches. Be it idler arm, belt or direct drive, each has its strengths and flaws. I wish you much success with your Eiger turntable.
Charles,

Vintage idler wheel drive turntable (Thorens 124, Garrard 301 and 401, Lenco) enthusiasts (including Art Dudley) cite the design's "forward momentum"/"rythmik drive" sound characteristic, supposedly a result of the high torque nature of idler wheel drive.