need new seperates on a budget

You should look at the Emotiva offerings. An XPA-5 power amp ($899, 200 watts/ch.) mated to a UMC-1 Preprocessor would gige ypu a whale of a good and powerful system for $1600. Or, you could substitue one of their UPA-5 amps (125 watts/ch.)and save yourself about $300.

I have a UMC-1 and really like it. It had some bugs when first released, but the latest firmware is really quite good. And the sound quality is quite good. Definitely one of the better-sounding prepros available today.

These items come up for sale on A'gon and usually sell very quickly. So be ready to pull the trigger when you find what you are looking for...

-RW-

RW would gige ypu a whale?

Thanks all for the responses.
I am thinking of seperates because I don't like having to replace an expensive receiver and would be able to cut the cost in half by having seperates. I would also like to be able to upgrade the pre/pro portion seperatly in the future.
Which of the amplifiers I have listed would be better than the others or something else in the $1000 used range.
I am intrigued by the Emotiva brand but afraid of the class D amps.
I can't use an older pre/pro because I have only HDMI inputs.
I am thinking of a inexpensive receiver as a pre/pro as a stop gap measure used as a pre only.

Goulsonc

The Emotiva line of amps aren't class D. They are Class AB. I don't remember the exact draw of my UPA-7 but it isn't that much.

How about the Onkyo PR-SC886 or Onkyo PR-SC885 pre/pros? Sometimes you can find those for under $800/each and then you can get different multi channel amp.

I'd grab a Onkyo PR-SC886 or 885 with a Emotiva XPA 5 amp.