Jadis JA30 Mk2, how great???


The new Jadis JA30 Mk2 is now on my radar. Does anyone here have any experience with this amp...thoughts?

Would seem to be in the sweet spot of the Jadis line.
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Hi Charlesdad and Butler,

Thanks for the words of encouragement. As they say so far so good. 

It was a long thought process to make this switch but this combination won me over and my wire works perfect as I thought it would. Something went astray with the emotion of my old system when I had the VAC preamp. upgraded to SE status? It was a mistake for me to do so in my case. In addition, the RS7i speakers stole my heart driven by these pieces. They have bass clarity with this front end like no other I have heard before and still have tube glow and bloom in the path with all the right mix up the spectrum. I  also like the fact this preamp. needs no warm-up and is meant to be left on and has a dedicated CD balanced output that by-passes the circuit.

I would never say this amp. is better than an SET designed amp. or that the KT150 is better than a 300B as it all depends on the mate...a lot like a marriage and what moves one-self with emotion. However as Charlesdad heard (and I trust he knows his emotions) at Axponia and maybe others is that the Jadis JA 30ll has some serious heart with the music and I agree this system will provide me a happy trail for a long time to come.  I am still in the break-in phase with no fuse upgrades etc. and I have to fine tune the position of the speakers in the room.

I have yet to hear the LV either with these but it will be more fun to come.

gwalt









"It all depends on the mate "
Absolute words of wisdom if there ever were any. This is why I reject the notion of "the best " when it comes to audio components, there are simply too many variables and circumstances involved. One could certainly say "the best " for me under specific and individual situations but not as a universal decree. 

Gwalt it seems that once you decided that the Gamut speakers were ideal for your needs you had to find the right amplifier to complete the match.  I can understand that although the 300b Border Patrol amplifiers are very fine and worthy , The Jadis amplifier was the better mate for the speaker chosen. This makes perfect sense as this was determined through actual listening. 

I could tell during my listening to the Jadis based system that it had that genuine ability to connect the music on a deep emotional and involving level  (qualities that drew me to my 300b SET).  Gwalt I'm very curious and interested in how the Jadis mates with your Living Voice speakers. I suspect very well. 
Charles, 

Hi Charlesdad:

Everything you said above comes from your years of experience in audio and I could not agree more.

I did get to hear the LV in Chicago the first time I was there with the JA 30ll but not with this preamp. so I will let you know when I get there. I like the JA30ll better mated with the Gamut d3i than I did the $28K Jadis, VAC Signature Mkll SE, MBL, Esoteric and one more I can not recall.  

Something to do with the mating together I am sure but both seem special together.

gwalt

It is has been a long time since I posted on the Jadis JA Mk.ll amp. with KT150 tubes. I have tried the telefunken 12au7/12ax7 for driver/input tubes and they are highly dynamic but not as musical as the Mullard 12au7/Siemens 12ax7 tubes which I have settled on. Also the KT 150 tubes take a long time to burn in like maybe 200 hours.

I have now concluded the Gamut d3i preamp./Jadis JA 30 Mkll. amp combination. is staying here long term. I especially like the fact the Gamut is meant to leave on forever with no warm up. The Jadis takes a bit of warm up to show their tremendous magic they have due to the massive transformers reaching internal thermal temp.

I have tried the amp. on my Living Voice OBX-RW and Gamut Rs7i [89 DB] speakers and in my room of 15X20 it is no challenge for the amp. to control the speakers. I also think it is the best bass I have had in my room but remains especially musical/magical top to bottom. I did re-strap the amp. to 4 ohm for the Gamut speakers and maybe noticed more control of the drivers with a slight loss of air and it has no issues on the 8 ohm tap. The amp. sounds more powerful than you can imagine and once fully warmed up a piano tone is shockingly real and never on the edge as in some systems I have heard. The Gamut speakers go down to 22 hz and these amps. have tremendous grip on the bass.

The only rolling in this amp. is with driver/input tubes and it does work for flavor but I have not converted the amp. to lower voltage for the many others it will play. At this point I have no desire to as the KT150's are very good on this amp.

In conclusion, this amp. got rid of the bit of fatness in the old amp. and it becomes much closer to neutral with superior quietness and "you are there" sound staging front to back.

This Jadis amp. certainly belongs on the list of must audition Push Pull Class A amplifiers if you are in the market. I would also highly put the Gamut on that list for a SS preamp. that sounds as natural as tubes and more so than some tube preamps. I have owned.

In the end, the Jadis sheer beauty, musical magic, and  simplicity with tubes is a blessing for the asking price. I love it.

Thanks for the update, gwalt. It is nice to read about a purchase in this hobby that gives one a smile. The Jadis JA30Mk2 seemed to me to be the very sweet spot of their line, which is why I started this thread.
Most times, the medium powered tube amp is the one to go for, IME. If one can mate the speakers to the medium powered amp, then I believe this is the best possible solution. 
I will try and source one for an audition.