Vandersteen Treo vs 3A Sig as upgrade


I had my local dealer hook up a pair of Treos to demo them and left with a very mixed impression. I like the overall sound. They have a smoother, more refined and sophisticated midrange that the 3A Sigs can't match. I want that. But the bass was less defined and the top end was bright. The sibilance was very exaggerated - this was with CD. Is this the character of the Treo? Thanks!
wlutke
I went from 3 a with a 200 WPC Mac amp to an Ayre VX-R driving 5 A. I liked the 3 a better for rock. They were set up right and believe me they ROCK....the rest of the line is pretty polite above 100 HZ..and I would say that about my 7 mk 2.
now..for low bass, resolution etc the 5 a win hands down. But as others have said, I believe in Richard..
There is a really nice pair of Quatros Fs here..maybe try those...


i should add that I have very wides tastes so rock does not define what I want. it counts but it does not dominate my decisions.

 Any one who wants can post and should.  I'm not monopolizing anything.  Not sure if Johnny is posting or not as I haven't gone back to read.  Just living in the moment.  

You don't think the Treo's can rock or boogie or whatever and I certainly feel they do as do many  others I speak with.  Didn't know I had to have everyone I speak with about audio posting to prove what I say isn't a lie. As for your comments about me dismissing your thoughts and feelings, nothing is further from the truth. I have posted that I understand what you are saying.  I said that the 3 does go deeper (I've posted that in other threads about them that you haven't read or at least posted on on other boards.  i love the 3's for their price, but the 8-1 purchases of the TReo over the 3's comes directly from Richard.  To me, that's folks who are choosing them over the 3's and many of us do listen to a lot of rock, but we would rather have an overall better speaker even if it doesn't have the displacement and or the room pressurization of the 3.  That's the reason they cost more and Richard has engineered them to be much better.  If you feel the 3 is a better speaker for you, that's cool and I'm honestly happy for you. I really am, but 8-1 would win out over some posters on a board (yes, me included).  Again, those are the facts.  I would venture to say that many of us who ended up with Treo's or Quatro's etc... have listened to the speakers one below and chosen to spend a bit more, because it fit's OUR system and personal tastes.  

Many threads I've read on all the boards meander and go all over the place. I can promise you that I'm not the only one who takes things that way. I have basically spoken about the difference in the two speakers and haven't been talking about other speakers or electronics.  As for the set up part that you take umbrage with, that was directly from Richard.  I'm sorry that upset you, but for any speaker it's important to set them up correctly.  Like I said, mine are about 3 feet from the rear wall I believe and they sound great on all music.  That's not trying to start a fight and it's not white washing a thing.  Honestly I have never said anything negative about the 3's and I haven't taken any swipes at you. If you feel I have, then I'm truly sorry.  Not my intent ever. 

When you read print instead of hearing voice inflection and reading non verbals, you don't always get the other person's thoughts fully.  I love the 3's and feel they are a great value.  The true value statements in the line are the 3's and the Quatro's to me.  
By monopolize I meant continuously and insistently undermining any and all opinions that portray the Vandersteen in any but the most glorious light.   I say the Treo is wimpy, because it is in my eyes.  I don't say things about the ability of Treo owners to properly evaluate a speaker, whether it be a fault of their equipment or what they might be used to hearing, or suggest that they are out of their league and dismiss them outright.   Sound familiar?   Unfounded undermining of credibility just to bolster your own.  It has no rightful place in this thread or any other.  So don't wear that halo too proudly.  
My observation (not accusation) that out of the ton of owners you know that think the Treo rocks, and all of the 8 -1 new owners of the Treo, you are the only one claiming such here on a 10,000 view thread.  That speaks louder than 8 - 1 statistics, super Vandersteen design or not.  There is one person on this thread that thinks the Treo rocks.  One.  One relentless person.  Would it hurt your pride so much to agree that the Treo would be a better rocker if it pushed more air?  

 Wluke,guys

Its real simple,Vandersteens latest efforts have been geared to work well with friendlier domestic positioning ,sometimes 7 to 14 inches out from the rooms front wall.

In a medium to large rooms (with a closer to wall position) the Treos offer a very well balanced design and high visual acceptance.

I don't doubt your comparisons outcome for a second and i know you can hear.

 Had you listened to the Treo in this near wall position its power response
 improves immensely along with smoother in room response add a ballsier solid state design and i think you would of discovered its magic.

That being said there is no excuse for cubic inches and the 3A Sig's
 10 inch and 8 inch do a super job for Rock and roll for which a Treo would need a 2WQ to move more bass. 
 If you are ever in Verona NJ drop in.
 Cheers JohnnyR.