Lyra Atlas experiences


A few years ago, I invested in a Lyra Atlas cartridge / pickup. I have moved up, from Lyra Clavis in the early 2000s and Lyra Titan i later. The Atlas was expensive, but I have not looked back. Yet I wonder, can something more be done, to optimize the Atlas, in my system, and others. How can this remarkable pickup run its best. What are the best phono preamp and system matches. Should the system be rearranged. Have anyone done mods or DIYs to their systems to get the "reception" right? What happened? Comments welcome. You dont need to own a Lyra Atlas but you should have heard it, to join this discussion. Comments from the folks at Lyra are extra welcome - what is your experience.
Oystein
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Dear @o_holter : Well, you posted in your thread:

"""  What are the best phono preamp and system matches. Should the system be rearranged. Have anyone done mods or DIYs to their systems to get the "reception" right? """

I said that you have " too many tubes " where the delicate low output cartridge signal must pass on. This delicate and extremely sensitive low output cartridge signal is degraded very easy and one form of that degradation ( exist several others. ) is the high noise in any all tube phono stage ( against any SS design. ) like the I/O that I listened at least 3 times ( the four chasis one unit. ), but not only that tube inherent noise levels but the too many stages where the cartridge signal pass inside the I/O where at each stage exist degradation.

I'm not arguing if you like it or not because you already said it: you like it and this does not means is the right electronic item for LOMC cartridges because it's not. As a fact there is no perfect item in analogue audio. In the other side that's the kind of distortions you are accustom too, each person is accustomed to diferent kind of distortions.

I posted that the Atlas can shows at its best with no tubes at all or at least with no so many.


"""  but the idea that the Io would "damage" the signal is foreign to me. """

with all respect: all phono stages damage the cartridge signal no matters its design technologies. Main subject is which ones contributes to make less harm to the cartridge signal. Please remember that any single degradation to that music signal means losted music information that we can't recovery and in the other side means added distortions. Such is the " audio analogue life ".

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Larryi - Lyra's track well, at least from the Titan onwards - yes, this is my experience also. Even the Clavis was quite good. Generally, my Titan i experience was very good, though it is worn out (just got it confirmed by microscope at a shop). So I have never been able to test the Atlas versus the Titan with both in mint condition, just a mint Atlas against a somewhat retiring Titan. What I know is, the Titan had great sound and a lot of potential. 
I remember when we tried to tweak a Lyra cartridge to the Souther / Clearaudio parallel arm, my audio expert friend and I, back in the early 2000s. Whatever we did, tweaking the arm, weight, azimuth and so on - even tilting the player to help it move along - we heard (and partly, saw) the arm "bumping down the track" in a loose ragtag fashion, like a sledge in the snow. We became quite sure, after testing, that the design did not work out, even if it avoided inwards skating. It was worse on a spring-loaded player like the VPI HW-19 but persisted even removing the springs. When I upgraded to the SME V arm, there was no looking back.
Raul
Great, a solid-state howl in the pack!
I am investigating your option right now. A solid state Riaa - Graham Slee Fanfare 3. I have also used a Musical innovations solid state preamp. I replaced it with Einstein the Tube, and have not looked back. I have used Lyras in a solid state system, upgrading from basic to advanced. I doubt if the Atlas sounds best in a pure solid state system, if so, it has to be much better than what I have heard.
Dear @o_holter : SS top designs improved a lot over the 60-70’s old times. Yes, the Atlat can listen it best in a pure top SS design and yes it is better that what you heard.

The real challenge is to find out that audio system supported by top SS electronics.
@o_holter , the worst place to use tube electronic design is on pure active all tube Phono stage. For LOMC cartridges best match are SS bipolars, not even FETs can do it better.

Anyway, just a personal opinion and I don't want to follow argue in this new thread " window " that I think needs its own thread to discuss.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.