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fabulous Technics EPC-100 series re-tip

I'm pretty sure many of you guys own fabulous Technics MM EPC-100 (MM) in your rasenal, especially their top models like (P or C versions) MK3 and MK4.

The question is how to upgrade this cartridges with a new tip, cantilever, suspension:

-How can do the job properly and how much is it, how is the sound after upgrade compared to the original?

-How good is the motor of this cartridge?

-It's worth to invest more in new boron cantilever, new tip etc?

-No one can provide pressure fitted tip to the boron cantilever?

P.S. I know Axel can do the job, not sure if he can change the suspension, Soundsmith will not do that. VdH is not available in my area. Who else can treat that Technics MM right ?

Anyone on here did the same to their Technics EPC-100 mk3 or mk4 ?
128x128chakster
cat5plus2007
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Andy Kim has done a terrific job for me on several occasions

I COILDN'T BE MORE PLEASED WITH HIS WORK AND COMMUNICATION

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nandric
4,086 posts
 

Trust is not sufficient reason for believe. Knowledge is much more,

uh, trustworthy. Those who know about the construction of tension

wire in the stylus holder also (?) know that exchanging the suspension

 (aka the ''rubber ring'') is only possible when this tension

wire is removed. But the problem then will be how to get this tension

wire back in its place? The re-tip is totally different question. The

problem of this Technics series is the suspension which can't be

fixed. Except, of course, for those who don't believe that low riders

exist . For them then there is no problem at all. They are able to use

the not recommended VTF of 0,25-0,5 g. 

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chakster OP
6,144 posts
 
@nandric you’re right, it’s an old thread and i already sold my re-tipped and re-cantilevered (by Axel) Technics EPC-100Cmk3. This is the backside of the replacement stylus essembly with (i guess) removed tension wire.

And for example this is original tension wire on my Technics 205Cmk4.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfTGi_YW8AAXcGB.jpg

I have posted these images before in another thread, but it’s better to leave it here.
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nandric
4,086 posts
 

Dear chackster, ''re-tiped and recantilevered'' is different animal

than fixed suspension. My experiece is similar but less drastic than

jpjones experience. Neither Axel nor Andy were able to fix my

two 205 C, mk 3 styli.  However I was not charged by Axel but

well by Andy. As a curious person I disassembled one of them

to see the inside construction of the whole thing. Behind the

cantilever there is a small round magnet on which both the

 cantilever and the tension wire are fastened. Tension wire is

 then centered with one screw and tighten with one other. At

the end of the tube the wire end is glued to the tube end.

Behind the mentioned magnet a small rubber ring is positioned

 for the suspension. This rubber ring can  only be removed and

changed by removing the cantilever with the tension wire at the

 front side of the stylus holder. There is no way one can put this together in the reverse. My conslusion was: never mess with 

those Technics  again. Despite the lyrical comment of the Mexican.


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chakster OP
6,144 posts
 
You didn't tell us from the start about your bad experience in details. 

It would be nice if someone can report here about successful experience of suspension repair on original Technics 100 or 205 series of cartridges with SoundSmith, Van Den Hul, Dominic etc. 

Now i’m curios about sapphire or ruby NEO SAS for Technics 205C mk4. I want to hear it, but i don’t have 205c mk4 anymore, at least my friend has it, i’m looking forward to check when this Neo Sas will be available. I didn't liked ex generation of SAS on my 205 mk4, but new generation Neo Sas could be better and totally different. 


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