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First home theater. HELP

Hi guys,

Luddite that I am, I am in the process of putting together our first home theater setup, and could use some help. It's always been about two channel/analog for me, and I am way behind the times when it comes to video. I want to keep it as simple as possible, not too expensive, and want to use some of the gear that I now use as a second system in our weekend country get-away place. I am interested in a basic surround setup (5.1), for prerecorded movie playback only (DVD's, movie downloads , but no cable or network tv), and the kids' video games. The
system will be also used for two channel music listening, which is why I would like keep the current gear and hopefully simply (?) integrate the new video and additional audio gear.

The current sound system consists of Meitner PA6i preamp and Meitner 101 mono blocks, Totem Arro speakers and EAD transport and DAC. I will probably add a turntable to the system at some point, which is one of the reasons I want to keep the Meitner gear (good phono), as well as the fact that it sounds great with the Arro's, is small and looks great.

My thoughts so far are to add a Totem Dreamcatcher center, rears and subwoofer for 5.1 use, an appropriate 5.1 surround processor, and a Meitner MTR50 stereo amp for the rear channels. Video will probably be handled by a Panasonic or Samsung 60in plasma. First question:

Is there a good, reasonably priced surround preamp that has a "pass-through" feature so that I can use the Meitner pre for two channel music listening with minimal sound degradation? BTW, the Meitner has two sets of outputs for whatever that's worth.

I have no illusions about getting sound that comes anywhere near SOTA, but would like to enhance movie viewing, and retain the sound of the existing second system for music listening. I welcome any thoughts/suggestions re processor, speakers, set-up, etc.

Thanks in advance.
frogman
martykl
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Oops....I don't think Marantz offers XT32 - only the lower end versions of Audyssey. My bad.

BTW, XT32 is available in AVRs from the same group listed above, except Marantz.

Marty
vicdamone
850 posts
 
Yes and yes.

Unfortunately, I don't think your preamp has a theater bypass or unity gain outputs but check to make sure. This feature allows you to use the PA6i independent of the receiver for two channel listening.
frogman OP
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Actually, I just corresponded with John Wright, and he tells me that, as Islandmandan suggested, I could use the extra set of outputs on the PA6i as a passthrough as long as the preamp is turned on and is not playing any other source. Curious, as I thought it would have to be turned off, but he explained that when off or muted, the outputs are shorted to ground. It's an inconvenient setup either way as the PA6's volume is set via remote only, and it does not have a way to visually reset a particular volume setting. I am still looking at all the options. Thanks.
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almarg
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Hi Frogman (and others who have responded),

I must admit that all of this leaves me totally confused.

How can the second set of outputs on the Meitner preamp provide any usefulness in this situation? The Meitner monoblock amps have to be driven by either the Meitner preamp (which presumably would give the best sonic results for two-channel listening) or by the A-V processor or receiver (at line level). The output of whichever of those two devices is not driving the power amps would have to be connected into an input of the device that is driving the power amps. In either case only one set of Meitner preamp outputs would be used.

Or is what is being envisioned connecting BOTH the A-V component and the Meitner preamp to the monoblocks, AND also connecting the Meitner preamp into the A-V component? Which wouldn't work properly, because when the A-V component is being used its output would be loaded by the low (47 ohm) output impedance the Meitner has when powered up and unmuted (or by a short to ground when powered down or muted, as you indicated). And for two-channel listening, having the output of the powered down A-V component and its cabling connected to the output of the Meitner preamp would not be a good idea either.

I do agree that unfortunately the lack of an easily repeatable means of resetting a specific volume on the Meitner preamp is a significant constraint on how the system can be configured.

Best regards,
-- Al
minkwelder
255 posts
 
Hi Frogman. I have integrated my two channel system with a modest surround system by using a 5.1 receiver with preamp outputs. I hooked the left/right front preamp outs from the receiver into a line level input on my 2-channel preamp. When setting the channel levels on the receiver, it is necessary to determine a position for the volume control on the two-channel preamp which you can return to when using the surround system. For me, the 12:00 position worked great and is easy to remember. This method should work with a surround processor also.
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