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Why pay so much for super high end?

Most speakers costing $50,000+ use Seas, Scan Speak or Accuton.

In DIY forums most speakers designed use bargain drivers and usually are only 2.0 designs not bookshelf or center speakers to complete a surround system.

I’d love to have a Scan Speak 11 speaker system for atmos with 3 way bookshelves, center and floorstanders.

Why aren’t the designs out there and why are you guys pissing away all your money.

Personally I won’t get an upgrade from my speakers unless it’s of this caliber and neither can I afford nor want to donate money to these thieves.

A 3rd party 11 speaker atmos scan Speak system would be nice but I’m not spending $250,000.

Why on earth aren’t there designs out there for this and why do you all piss away your money?

I don’t get why hi fi isn’t all DIY even honest factory direct companies mark up 300%.

Unless you pull in $1+ million a year and don’t have any time I don’t get it.

Are you guys lazy?

Someone easily could design a great crossover and cabinets for everyone and the days of paying over $3,500 for a pair of loud speakers if you got some time or know a friend who could build cabinets would be over. I know of people who could design cabinets that rival $100,000 speakers and cost less than 1% than that.  Someone with some experience could easily design a diamond, beryllium and soft dome and various versions for various tastes.

I don’t get it. Speakers are so simple.  Crossovers cabinets and drivers.

You guys just throw your money away I don’t understand it why?


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douglas_schroeder
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Shadorne, I appreciate your thoughtful, respectful reply, which is what should happen on this site, not rude dismissal. :)

We will be at odds on this topic, and I do not see the article you referenced as very strong evidence for the idea that creatures have the capacity to morph over time. Research conducted in labs for decades on tens of thousands of generations of fruit flies, for example, attempting directed, forced change to the DNA shows that DNA is extremely stubbornly resistive to change, not amenable to change. Imo, the search for a mechanism to drive DNA change via viruses is a desperate one to save a failing theory.

As you linked to a resource, I'll share one as well. A good introductory book on Intelligent Design is "It Couldn't Just Happen" by Lawrence O Richards. It shows some of the phenomenal challenges scientifically which stand against Darwinism.

Anyway, I did not intend to commandeer the thread or throw it off entirely. Feel free to reply and we can let it be. I invite you to open discussion with me on the topic, and we may find it an enjoyable cordial discussion in private. :)

 

terry9
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Douglas, I resent this. I didn't come to a technology site to defend science.
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jmcgrogan2
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you could get $100,000+ speakers for a couple of grand.
@funtrollfun, every DIY guy I know who has $2K in his speakers claim they are as good as $100K+ speakers. That's part of the DIY fun, just imagining how much money you are saving. Pride of doing it yourself.
I can't say that I would mistake their speakers for $100K+ speakers, but they were worth at least $2K, well mostly, sorry Rick.

If they are happy with their DIY gear, God Bless 'em. I wouldn't lecture a DIYer on how to live his life, and I don't expect some DIYer to lecture anyone else on how to live their life. Only a pompous fool believes they have the right to educate the rest of the world on how to live life properly.

Much of audio is ridiculously priced, and could be done much cheaper. The prices are so high because some folks WANT them to be high, for elitist status purposes. In the last 10 years every major audio manufacturer has come out with a new top of the line model which is at least double in price.
If you don't want to chase the spiraling absolute sound, that's your business, and no one else. If others do decide to chase the spiraling absolute sound, that's their business, and not yours.


in a couple of hours you can basically earn $10,000 an hour being a speaker builder saving yourself tons of money.

Hahahaha....now that's good comedy there. If that is your actual thought process, there is sense talking logic or reason with you.
randy-11
1,913 posts
 
it is one thing to buy some cone based drivers and build an enclosure by copying the R&D of an established and eminent manf.

it is something else to hire a bunch of engineers and acousticians, but them test gear, including laser interferometers, and spend years to improve on an existing design of cones in a box

and something else again to create speaker based on ribbons, electrostatics, or a gas plasma

choose your level and how much time you want to invest for the $$ you will save (I suggest the cones in a box for any single individual)

Just remember, Edgar Villchur died for your sins
mb1audio
151 posts
 
" Much of audio is ridiculously priced, and could be done much cheaper. The prices are so high because some folks WANT them to be high, for elitist status purposes. In the last 10 years every major audio manufacturer has come out with a new top of the line model which is at least double in price. "

I've heard statements like that many times over the years, and for the most part, I just don't buy it. There are some products out there that are overpriced, but I've never seen anyone buy them as a status symbol. They're just trying to get better sound, and are willing to pay for it. Not only that, but when expensive products don't sound as good as expected, those status symbols go right out the door.

As for the doubling of prices over the last 10 years, I think its also worth mentioning that price increases go far beyond the audio industry. Everything is more expensive these days, not just audio components. Besides, no one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy something. A decision like that can only be made by you. 
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