Do equipment stands have an impact on electronics?

What’s also hilarious is that Ethan actually was measuring the wrong thing. The very low frequency vibration, the seismic type vibration, forces the room and the whole building to move - and everything in it! So, when sitting there looking at the speakers, or trying to measure their motion relative to the floor using a laser or whatever they don’t appear to move. But they are moving. Just not relative to the floor. Not only that but the motion of the building is in SIX directions, not just up and down (one direction). I suspect Ethan didn’t think about measuring rotational motion.

Atmasphere, I never said (or meant, anyway) that power cords don’t make a difference. Obviously using 22 gauge wire to feed a 1,000 watt amp is inadequate. What I’m always careful to say is that replacing one competent power cord with another is foolish. I’m certain you know you misquoted me. Why do you do this? Are you in the business of selling audio equipment?

My objection is to companies that charge hundreds or even thousands of dollars for one "upgraded" power cord based on lies that the sound quality will improve. It will not improve. If you’re really an engineer (but who can tell since you remain anonymous) you’d know this. Yet you argue anyway. Why do you do this? Do you really not understand what affects fidelity and how it’s measured?

As for my own setup, I have excellent speakers that are self-powered (bi-amp’d), so the power amps in my modest Pioneer receiver are irrelevant. Though those amps have perfectly fine specs.

And as for Geoff’s magical belief in a building moving in six directions when music plays, all I can say is LOL times 100. Actually, if that were true then the listener’s ears would be moving too, thus negating that ridiculous logic.

"As for "Are all those people deluded?" the answer is a resounding yes!"

Reminds me of a certain presidential candidate calling the heartland of America, "Deplorables". May you and your new business befall the same fate, Ethan. Go pet your cat and leave we, "the deluded", be. Consider it an early Christmas present to us all.

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Atmasphere, I never said (or meant, anyway) that power cords don’t make a difference. Obviously using 22 gauge wire to feed a 1,000 watt amp is inadequate. What I’m always careful to say is that replacing one competent power cord with another is foolish. I’m certain you know you misquoted me. Why do you do this? Are you in the business of selling audio equipment?

Hmm. I can point to a YouTube video (and have in the past) where you contradicted (with vehemence) the first sentence in this paragraph.

The statement above is quite a bit different from your position that you held back when you got banned from the WBF website.

I am not aware of misquoting you; if you are now maintaining that a power cord should be a competent one then I have no beef. On that basis we can then state unequivocally that you think power cords can make a difference. Please do not accuse me of putting words in your mouth as anyone can see that is not the case. You simply maintain that a power cord should be competent (your text above), and that's good enough for me.

I'm not a particular fan of outrageously expensive power cords either. I do feel if a power cord is touted for its merits (or not), then it should be possible to measure the effects of the power cord easily enough (and have easily shown that to be the case). I don't take anything for face value as I have found that if you think about it long enough, its likely that you can find a way to measure the effects of that thing.

Regarding my anonymity, you are mistaken. I make no secret of the fact that I am associated with Atma-Sphere Music Systems; that is why my moniker is atmasphere. . Many of the people on this forum are well aware of that.

Apparently you replaced your Pioneer. What are the self powered speakers you are running now?

Regarding Geoff, I am sure you will find his posts amusing. He also maintains that signal moves through a cable via photons. And says he worked for NASA. I'm sure you'll give him as much credence as I have.

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We had an interesting incident near Humboldt State University. A new cell tower went up and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cell phone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health. Think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational. The ability of the human brain to convince itself of just about anything is not to be underestimated." --Brian Dunning

That's very funny. The only confounding variable is THC. Humbolt county is a suspicious location for any higher institution of learning....

Placebo effect aside, much of this issue comes down to WHAT to measure and why. A lot of audio inhabits potentially cutting edge physics, etc and so is not alway cut and dry engineering. That being said, why not try to build a body of evidence and at least try to push things forwards in a concrete way? I do not understand all the resistance.