Do equipment stands have an impact on electronics?


Mechanical grounding or isolation from vibration has been a hot topic as of late.  Many know from experience that footers, stands and other vibration technologies impact things that vibrate a lot like speakers, subs or even listening rooms (my recent experience with an "Energy room").  The question is does it have merit when it comes to electronics and if so why?  Are there plausible explanations for their effect on electronics or suggested measurement paradigms to document such an effect?
agear
atmasphere
Geoffkait:There were no speaker isolation stands 25 years ago. Not in the literal sense of the word, anyway. 25 years ago vibration isolation was not even a gleam in some audiophile’s eye. Using the laser as you described would not give a sense of how much energy from the speakers was being fed back into the front end electronics via the floor. I’m getting that feeling again we’re not on the same page.

"This statement is false. Sound Anchors was making stands for exactly that purpose prior to 1991. We showed with them at CES in 1993."

Unless the Sound Anchors had springs in them they weren’t real isolation stands. The first three real isolation stands were Townshend’s Seismic Sink, the Vibraplane and the Bright Star air bladder thingie. I'll make an exception an add the Bright Star sandbox contraption to the list.





Well we’re making progress. At least Ethan now acknowledged that speakers can "shift" the floor. Now we’re talking! I fixed my issues in my house easily and inexpensively so I’ll leave it to Ethan to fix it as needed for his customers. At least there is some hope there now! I have no doubt he’ll be doing some very careful measurements of how much shift in what kind of floors and relating that to what can be heard and/or measured and passing on his research costs to any customers that might care enough to pay.  Meanwhile I'll continue to provide my 2 cents here for free..
What’s also hilarious is that Ethan actually was measuring the wrong thing. The very low frequency vibration, the seismic type vibration, forces the room and the whole building to move - and everything in it! So, when sitting there looking at the speakers, or trying to measure their motion relative to the floor using a laser or whatever they don’t appear to move. But they are moving. Just not relative to the floor. Not only that but the motion of the building is in SIX directions, not just up and down (one direction). I suspect Ethan didn’t think about measuring rotational motion.

Atmasphere, I never said (or meant, anyway) that power cords don’t make a difference. Obviously using 22 gauge wire to feed a 1,000 watt amp is inadequate. What I’m always careful to say is that replacing one competent power cord with another is foolish. I’m certain you know you misquoted me. Why do you do this? Are you in the business of selling audio equipment?

My objection is to companies that charge hundreds or even thousands of dollars for one "upgraded" power cord based on lies that the sound quality will improve. It will not improve. If you’re really an engineer (but who can tell since you remain anonymous) you’d know this. Yet you argue anyway. Why do you do this? Do you really not understand what affects fidelity and how it’s measured?

As for my own setup, I have excellent speakers that are self-powered (bi-amp’d), so the power amps in my modest Pioneer receiver are irrelevant. Though those amps have perfectly fine specs.

And as for Geoff’s magical belief in a building moving in six directions when music plays, all I can say is LOL times 100. Actually, if that were true then the listener’s ears would be moving too, thus negating that ridiculous logic.
"As for "Are all those people deluded?" the answer is a resounding yes!"

Reminds me of a certain presidential candidate calling the heartland of America, "Deplorables". May you and your new business befall the same fate, Ethan. Go pet your cat and leave we, "the deluded", be. Consider it an early Christmas present to us all.

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