Do equipment stands have an impact on electronics?


Mechanical grounding or isolation from vibration has been a hot topic as of late.  Many know from experience that footers, stands and other vibration technologies impact things that vibrate a lot like speakers, subs or even listening rooms (my recent experience with an "Energy room").  The question is does it have merit when it comes to electronics and if so why?  Are there plausible explanations for their effect on electronics or suggested measurement paradigms to document such an effect?
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ethan_winer
^^^ Yes, exactly. And nulling can be used in many other interesting and creative ways. The device I’m currently developing can measure distortion down to extremely low levels, and it can even use music as a test signal. It can also compare two wires to see how they differ. So you could compare the $3 RCA wire that comes free with every CD player versus a $2,000 "interconnect" and see how similar they are. If they null to below -100 dB then you know both wires must sound identical no matter what the vendors claim. Pretty neat, eh?!

Geez, Louise. Didn’t you get the memo, Nathan? Things that measure the same often don’t sound the same. At least in the audiophile world. One assumes you’re from the bullet headed Audio Review dude’s school of thought, the one from back in the 80s who said exactly what you just said. It’s just another example of what separates Mid Fi from the high end. You want some examples of things that measure the same and sound different, you say? Capacitors, cables, power cords, power cord conmectors, resisitors, speakers, CD players, stereo cartridges, amplifiers, preamplifiers. Even electron tubes that measure and have the same military spec sound different. Imagine that. Everything sounds different. Cones sound different. Isolation stands sound different. Even one with the SAME measured resonant frequency. Follow?

Geez, even TVs that measure the same look different. Or are you blind too?
12-21-2016 1:39pm
Nathan Winer: Ralph, I absolutely do not think I know everything. I do think that everything that affects audio fidelity is known, and so there’s no mystery, but I know very well that I don’t know everything. A list of just what I know that I don’t know would be pretty long. Then there’s the stuff I don’t even know that I don’t know. That said, if you think people like cockrum and kait have anything to offer that will increase my knowledge of audio, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

to which atmasphere responded,

"Regarding kait, I invite you to reread some of my prior comments that were directed at you; you should already know I don’t take him seriously."

The feeling’s mutual, big guy but I know where you’re coming from. You’ve just remained in the past a little too long and haven’t quite caught up with reality. No biggie as far as I’m concerned. The fact that you actually take Nathan seriously speaks volumes.

With all due respect,

geoff kait
Machina Dynamica



Good luck with that.  

I can't even find someone who can measure my feet in a manner that  guarantees comfort.  Just a basic fit to help toss out the really bad candidates but not enough to determine the final choice.

Hopefully  the salesman can tell  me which one fits best based on the measurements but not take it personally if I end up disagreeing.
It's clear that Geoff Kait doesn't understand what nulling is or how it works. I'll give you a clue: it doesn't "measure" anything. Here's a more complete explanation, not that you're interested in learning anything but maybe others are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ&t=53m39s
In the past I sold Hafler amps and they sounded good. But I never liked them enough to own one..they were good enough to use on subs but never full range in a top shelf system. Tom