Xti: Tks. for your detail explanation. According to the dicsussion in the audio board here in Taipei, some regards that S25 has more tendency toward audio performance and the 1.3SE has more music smell. That is the description from the discussion here. I will try to find chance to hear the C1, but the new one is quite expensive here. Even the 2nd hand C1, it costs about US$4,000 and the C1 signature costs US$6000 here in Taipei. They are imported from U.S.A. by the audio trade merchandizer not the distributor. The distributor price is beyond reached.