Class D Technology

In learning about Class D, it appears that after the linear signal is destroyed and turned into a saw tooth wave form, the output filter? tries to put the signal back together...doing an incredible job considering the complexity of this task...but ultimately is unable to restore micro details to recreate the original signal...which people such as myself notice very quickly, while others either don’t notice or enjoy the new coloration.

It is silly, to avoid using stronger word. You originated this thread pretending you want to learn about class D, while knowing you hate it.
I will remember your login and will be careful to answer your posts next time.

It is silly, to avoid using stronger word. You originated this thread pretending you want to learn about class D, while knowing you hate it.
I will remember your login and will be careful to answer your posts next time.

I've learned a ton about Class D from this thread and I appreciate everyone's input (including yours). I began this thread after having a poor experience with Ice Power. I wanted to like that tiny powerhouse and kept trying to talk myself into getting used to its tonal qualities. 

My goal has been to learn about Class D in general as well as limitations and strengths of the technology. It's hard to not step on toes when seeking to uncover information that is potentially upsetting to promoters of the technology. I would not have began this thread if I had given up on this technology as the internet has enough trolls. Happy New Years to all classes of amp lovers.  

You originated this thread pretending you want to learn about class D, while knowing you hate it.
I will remember your login and will be careful to answer your posts next time.

Maybe it's some that are so pro Class-D as it stands, and can't/refuse to see that it's maybe it's not become of age yet.
If they can concede that Technics with their SE-R1 are showing the way in the area of switching noise frequency development, maybe then there'll be an even faster development in that area by other class-d manufacturers demanding to have those components to make it happen. 

Cheers George  

No, learning about class D is not your goal.  You placed many negative posts on class D with no single positive one. That is trolling.

mitch2,

     My comments in my previous post were solely in response to savdllc's/David's post on 12/31.and were not directed at you at all.

     After reading your post and the review you linked to on the Mola-Mola class D preamp and amps, you are clearly not included in the group of posters that have never heard a good class D amp in their system.  

     I concede your point that some have compared class A and A/B amps to 'current good class D amps', not just the early class D amps,and still preferred the class A or A/B amp.

     In regards to what I consider ' current good quality class D amps',   I would include any amps utilizing the NCore-1200 modules (Acoustic Imagery Atsah, Merrill Veritas, Theta Prometheus, etc.) as well as those utilizing Abletec and Pascal power modules (Marten, D-Sonic and Rowland).  There are also other current good quality class D amps such as H2O, W4S, Red Dragon and Bel Canto. Sorry,  I probably missed a few other current good quality class D amps,too.

     Your attached review of the Mola-Mola preamp and amps were one of the few  reviews I've seen on the Kaluga monos that was not extremely positive.  The review was not totally negative but it seemed to me like the reviewer had such high expectations going in that only near perfection would result in a positive review.

     Both you and the reviewer mentioned 'a lack of musicality' which is a quality that is very subjective  and uniquely perceived by each listener. Regardless of how each person defines it and perceives it, however, I think 'musicality' is probably the most important quality a home music system needs to possess.   I understand it's a quality you require in your amp and I feel the same. 

     I believe we both perceive the bass,power, tone, body and lack of noise in good class D amps (NCore-1200 based  amps in your case and Abletec based amps in my case). but you also perceive a lack of 'musicality' whereas I do not.  

     As a result, I'm much more enthusiastic about good class D then you are.  You're very pleased with your class A or A/B amps and I'm pleased with my class D amps. I'd call that a win-win scenario, congrats.

     I believe no amp technology has a monopoly on good sound quality and think we both agree that class D is not right for everyone.

 No big deal, right?
      Tim