PS Audio BHK 300 mono VS Modwright KWA 150SE mono VS D'agostino Classic stereo


What would you consider the best option of these 3 to build a reference level system.
Any experience with these amps would be appreciated.
I'm also considering higher end gear but if budget does not allow i will stick to these 3 options.

Thieliste
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I have never seen such excellent feedback/advice from so many on any one thread. thieliste, I think that your audition of the Ypsilon will tell you a lot.

I am totally delighted with a Classe' Audio DR-9 (100W/ch@8 ohms rated high current SS amp that doubles down to 2 ohms) with my "older" Thiel CS5is using a MW5400ES tubed player for the front end. The lower-rated-power DR-9 simply does more things right than my Krell FPB-600c at all but insane volume. May be the same with the Ypsilon vs the D'agostino or Krell in your system, dunno. Only your ears will know for sure.

Recent experience has taught me that tubes somewhere in the chain are magical with the Thiels. Makes them relax just the right amount to bring out the musicality vs analytical over-achievement without.  

As always, the synergy of the equipment chain makes the difference.
emailists' advice to leave a good amount of your budget for cables, cords, and a top power conditioner is prudent, IME.

Best to you thieliste,
Dave

dlcockrum i'm surprised you're able to drive the most difficult Thiel ever with only 100 watts even if it's doubling.
I'm sure the D'agostino classic would be a perfect match for my CS 3.7 with let's say a VAC or VTL preamp.
But who knows perhaps the Ypsilon Aelius will have enough current and sound beautiful on the 3.7s.

"dlcockrum i’m surprised you’re able to drive the most difficult Thiel ever with only 100 watts even if it’s doubling."

Quote from ’Blazing Saddles’: "It’s twue! It’s twue!" lol

Over 25 years with several different amplifiers driving the 5i’s (including one of the highest-wattage monsters of all time), I find that it is much more about current delivery and superior amplifier design (minimizing anomalies at the frequency extremes, the ability to reproduce correct timbre and deliver micro and macro dynamics optimally) than rated power (to a limit).

Enjoy this golden time in your audio journey, thieliste.

Dave
Thiel recommended between 100-400 Watts for the CS5's. In my conversations with JIm Thiel he told me his all power recommendations were based upon quality ss amps that could double down, and that should one choose to use tubes, etc., they should increase the power  accordingly.

Hi Dave,

Your experience with the Classe compared to your higher power Krell is not very surprising to me. In theory the massive Krell should have outperformed the Classe amplifier with the Thiels, it did not. There’s theory and then there’s actual real life experience. As you note, listening trumps specifications. The "quality" of the amplifier’s watts do matter. I’ve seen this type of outcome numerous times in a variety of systems. I don’t dismiss the value of measurements, but I believe they are over emphasized in some cases and they can’t account for sound quality. An amp can be capable of delivering high  power/current to "drive" a speaker and yet some less than great doing so.

Charles